UNP [Barlimore]

[UNP]

Barlimore, I adhered to your ingame request to not instigate any trouble with that specific player, and the only public discussion I was involved in at length today was one about bees. I did have a private discussion with MiniZuvy in regards to a personal issue he's having, but I was not abusive towards him and ceased communication after he requested it. As the last thing resulting in any conflict was the one I had that discussion with you about, and that was nearly 24 hours ago, I'm wondering why I was banned?

Edited May 9, 2017 by UNP

[Guest Former Staff]

Hello UNP, thank you for appealing.  I'm going to be a little busy for a while but I will properly respond to your appeal within 48 hours.

[Guest Former Staff]

I appreciate your patience there UNP. I'm looking to answer your question above about why you were banned.

Within your ban message, I banned you with the message "Ban baiting, disrespectful, disruptive & harassing." for breaking the following four rules:

• Be respectful and civil toward your fellow players
• No harassment or excessive trolling
• No disruptive arguments/discussions in global chat
• No “ban baiting”

There has not been a specific instance that has resulted in your ban, it has been a culmination of incidents. Your rude interaction with TESLAray via private message on the day of your ban was merely the straw that broke the camels back.

In recent weeks, 6 chat-related notes were removed from your mcbouncer notes seemingly due to you changing and the notes no longer being relevant. You have since received two new chat-related notes, and from the hundreds of times the ignore command has been run on P since the reset, you alone equate to 47% of all ignores. While I am providing some logs within this post, searching 'UNP' over 30 days on P here will also provide an array of results which could have also been included into this appeal, for anyone willing to see for themselves.

• During a land claim dispute being handled by another padmin, you ended the three-way discussion and promptly threatened the other user by pm:

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2017-04-25 19:29:52 [INFO] [UNP -> REDACTED] brick in my shit again and I will find a way to destroy everything you've built.

• During a conversation with a moderator who was elevating your request to a padmin, you provided a torrent of abusive messages including, but far from limited to:

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2017-04-30 21:43:10 [INFO] [UNP -> REDACTED] so what the fuck is the problem exactly

• Your discussions in global chat have mostly been disruptive or argumentative. Take the following example where you argued with yourself for four minutes in public chat following a restart until someone responded. This incident resulted in you receiving a mute.
   

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 <Server restart>

2017-05-04 22:17:29 [INFO] <Sapphric> lol
2017-05-04 22:17:32 [INFO] <Zaliek> Wait it's not out yet?
2017-05-04 22:17:32 [INFO] <triztin> honestly though, I'm more excited for sens8 season 2!
2017-05-04 22:17:37 [INFO] <Sapphric> i can't even name all the big movies i haven't seen
2017-05-04 22:17:38 [INFO] <UNP> i don't give the remotest flying fuck what the gender of the actors playing the ghostbusters are
2017-05-04 22:17:43 [INFO] <Barlimore> Bring on House of Cards. :-)
2017-05-04 22:17:43 [INFO] <CaptainWolfgang> SENSE 8!
2017-05-04 22:17:43 [INFO] <UNP> what i care about is if they're funny
2017-05-04 22:17:45 [INFO] <UNP> and they weren't
2017-05-04 22:17:57 [INFO] <Sapphric> sense 8 is good? looks good
2017-05-04 22:18:00 [INFO] <triztin> shit i wondered if your username was sense8!!
2017-05-04 22:18:01 [INFO] <UNP> 2016 ghostbusters was a joke because it completely fucking missed the point of the original
2017-05-04 22:18:05 [INFO] <triztin> sense8 is a masterpiece
2017-05-04 22:18:16 [INFO] <CaptainWolfgang> Oh totally. Wolfgang is the boss
2017-05-04 22:18:18 [INFO] <UNP> not only that, but repeated references were made to them being women. How many dick jokes were there in the original?
2017-05-04 22:18:21 [INFO] <triztin> I mean it has a lot of sex but the story is the beautiful part
2017-05-04 22:18:21 [INFO] <UNP> i don't remember any.
2017-05-04 22:18:22 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> It was fine, once you got over everyone bellyaching about it.
2017-05-04 22:18:23 [INFO] <UNP> NONE.
2017-05-04 22:18:37 [INFO] <UNP> in fact, the ghostbusters in the original were a bunch of schlubby, weird guys who just lost their jobs
2017-05-04 22:18:41 [INFO] <CaptainWolfgang> Yah it's defs a unique show
2017-05-04 22:18:43 [INFO] <UNP> and were trying to build a business
2017-05-04 22:18:48 [INFO] <UNP> they were fucking losers, to be blunt
2017-05-04 22:18:49 [INFO] <triztin> the whole concept behind sense8 is incredible
2017-05-04 22:19:03 [INFO] <CaptainWolfgang> No kidding. I'm so excited!
2017-05-04 22:19:08 [INFO] <UNP> queue 2016, they're all empowered strong wimmenz who make jokes about slime being stuck in "every crevice"
2017-05-04 22:19:11 [INFO] <UNP> what the fucking fuck is that.
2017-05-04 22:19:27 [INFO] <triztin> me too! I was not sure about wolfgang when I first started watching but holy shit I love him now
2017-05-04 22:19:28 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> I think "women making jokes" is what the fk that is.
2017-05-04 22:19:36 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> Which is perfectly fine.
2017-05-04 22:19:41 [INFO] <UNP> it was fucking horrible is what it was
2017-05-04 22:19:44 [INFO] <UNP> how is that funny
2017-05-04 22:19:51 [INFO] <UNP> once again
2017-05-04 22:20:01 [INFO] <UNP> i don't recall any jokes about shit being stuck in dicks from the first one
2017-05-04 22:20:01 [INFO] <triztin> one of my faourite scenes in the new years special was when him and sun were telling each other they were there for each other
2017-05-04 22:20:05 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> Ok, you didn't like the movie. Did you get your money back at least?
2017-05-04 22:20:12 [INFO] <CaptainWolfgang> Haha yeah. I've watched season 1 a few times and some of the characters just grow on you overtime
2017-05-04 22:20:16 [INFO] <UNP> they claim it was "toxic masculinity" but can't fucking provide any examples of it.
2017-05-04 22:20:23 [INFO] <triztin> oh I know. and they're all so well written
2017-05-04 22:20:31 [INFO] <UNP> THAT'S why diversity for the sake of itself is fucking sickening and pathetic
2017-05-04 22:20:36 [INFO] <triztin> this show is incredible
2017-05-04 22:20:37 [INFO] <UNP> and shouldn't be a thing
2017-05-04 22:20:41 [INFO] <UNP> because every time it's done
2017-05-04 22:20:46 [INFO] <Sapphric> I'm just pumped for Stranger Things 2
2017-05-04 22:20:49 [INFO] <Sapphric> 6 months away
2017-05-04 22:20:51 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> I don't think you're arguing with the movie so much as fans of the movie there.
2017-05-04 22:20:52 [INFO] <Barlimore> Oh yes!
2017-05-04 22:20:53 [INFO] <UNP> it cheapens the narrative and forces that one particular aspect of the character to BE the character.
2017-05-04 22:20:54 [INFO] <triztin> oh damn really??
2017-05-04 22:20:57 [INFO] <Barlimore> Halloween again - Sapphric?
2017-05-04 22:20:59 [INFO] <Sapphric> yup
2017-05-04 22:21:09 [INFO] <CaptainWolfgang> Yes it is and everyone should watch it!
2017-05-04 22:21:10 [INFO] <triztin> that's awesome :O
2017-05-04 22:21:14 [INFO] <UNP> there's no characters when all you're doing is zeroing in on a single aspect of them as a person
2017-05-04 22:21:27 [INFO] <triztin> and hell ya wolfgang :D
2017-05-04 22:21:29 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> Let's... seriously, how do you "cheapen the narrative" of comedic schlock like Ghostbusters?
2017-05-04 22:21:32 [INFO] <triztin> what is best in life?
2017-05-04 22:21:41 [INFO] <Medoria> yeah :D excited for ST too :)
2017-05-04 22:21:42 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> It's not Scorcese.
2017-05-04 22:21:48 [INFO] <Jellypants> excuse me the original ghostbusters is a masterpiece
2017-05-04 22:21:54 [INFO] <Sapphric> i'd pay to see a Scorcese ghostbusters
2017-05-04 22:21:54 [INFO] <UNP> no, but it had charm
2017-05-04 22:21:59 [INFO] <triztin> really? it was kind of boring for me?
2017-05-04 22:22:03 [INFO] <UNP> it had charm the modern remake totally lacks
2017-05-04 22:22:03 [INFO] <Sapphric> I haven't seen it
2017-05-04 22:22:06 [INFO] <UNP> not only that
2017-05-04 22:22:10 [INFO] <Zaliek> In case you haven't noticed, reboots are generally devoid of anything resembling complex characters that aren't 1-dimensional
2017-05-04 22:22:12 [INFO] <UNP> hte modern remake FUCKING BOMBED
2017-05-04 22:22:14 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> lol ok but really... it's just a stupid movie.
2017-05-04 22:22:16 [INFO] <UNP> it bombed
2017-05-04 22:22:17 [INFO] <triztin> I don't think it was bad but it didn't entertain me
2017-05-04 22:22:23 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> Ok, calm yourself.
2017-05-04 22:22:24 [INFO] <gk_ryo> Zaliek - Mad Max.
2017-05-04 22:22:24 [INFO] <UNP> regardless of how hard Sony try to twist the narrative
2017-05-04 22:22:28 [INFO] <triztin> ^
2017-05-04 22:22:29 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> It's just. a. movie.
2017-05-04 22:22:36 [INFO] <triztin> mad max 4 was great
2017-05-04 22:22:37 [INFO] <UNP> regardless of the histrionic shrieking about "muh soggy knees"
2017-05-04 22:22:46 [INFO] <UNP> it didn't make money, it LOST money
2017-05-04 22:22:53 [INFO] <Zaliek> There's now free ladders in the end
2017-05-04 22:23:04 [INFO] <PvtSnowball971> hey
2017-05-04 22:23:07 [INFO] <twoist> hiya!
2017-05-04 22:23:08 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> And injured you grievously... why exactly does it bother you so?
2017-05-04 22:23:19 [INFO] <triztin> brb
2017-05-04 22:23:25 [INFO] <PvtSnowball971> oh my this song is screamy
2017-05-04 22:23:33 [INFO] <UNP> because the reason why it bombed is completely ignored in favour of some stupid pathetic bullshit about it being because men hate women
2017-05-04 22:23:55 [INFO] <Zaliek> UNP, this isn't tumblr, please
2017-05-04 22:24:01 [INFO] <Zaliek> They won't see this
2017-05-04 22:24:01 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> Well, calling it "histrionic" isn't exactly helping your point is it?
2017-05-04 22:24:18 [INFO] <UNP> you should go watch the redlettermedia video where they run the numbers for it, and find out that all the misogynistic comments compose a fraction of a percentage of all the feedback about it
2017-05-04 22:24:52 [INFO] <UNP> I'm sorry, but if you make a bad thing, and it's treated as a bad thing, and you then start complaining that it's actually awesome and only failed because "basement dwelling women haters"
2017-05-04 22:24:54 [INFO] <UNP> then yeah
2017-05-04 22:24:58 [INFO] <UNP> that's histrionics
2017-05-04 22:24:59 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> SOme liked it, some didn't - there's a TON of movies that are as bad or as good.
2017-05-04 22:25:25 [INFO] <UNP> yeah, people who were paid to like it liked it
2017-05-04 22:25:29 [INFO] <UNP> based on the numbers
2017-05-04 22:25:30 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> No, but the trolling was significantly specific and hateful.
2017-05-04 22:25:43 [INFO] <UNP> and it was a fucking FRACTION OF A PERCENT
2017-05-04 22:25:46 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> it wasn't about the movie... it was about it being made with women.
2017-05-04 22:25:59 [INFO] <UNP> i feel like i'm chasing my tail here
2017-05-04 22:26:09 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> People arguing how it was spoiling the original "narrative" - as if.
2017-05-04 22:26:14 [INFO] <UNP> kristen wiig has done awesome stuff before and she's a talented actress.
2017-05-04 22:26:26 [INFO] <UNP> Ghostbusters 2016 was fucking trash.
2017-05-04 22:26:43 [INFO] <Babyman> y
2017-05-04 22:26:47 [INFO] <UNP> according to it being "about women" those two statements are mutually exclusive.
2017-05-04 22:26:51 [INFO] <UNP> so explain it to me.
2017-05-04 22:26:51 [INFO] <Barlimore> Is there anything good coming out this year?
2017-05-04 22:26:58 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> Wow. I hope you aren't like this about all movies you didn't like.
2017-05-04 22:27:00 [INFO] <Sapphric> Star wars
2017-05-04 22:27:03 [INFO] <gk_ryo> Blade Runner maybe.
2017-05-04 22:27:04 [INFO] <iNerd71> Star War 8
2017-05-04 22:27:14 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> Covenant
2017-05-04 22:27:19 [INFO] <Zaliek> Star Warts 8?
2017-05-04 22:27:24 [INFO] <Zaliek> Will that be good?
2017-05-04 22:27:27 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> And my favorite, The Dark Tower
2017-05-04 22:27:33 [INFO] <triztin> we still talking positively about our fave media? :D
2017-05-04 22:27:42 [INFO] <Azumarill> the Dark Tower trailer was bad for non-racist reasons
2017-05-04 22:27:46 [INFO] <Azumarill> like changing the story
2017-05-04 22:27:47 [INFO] <Barlimore> Star Warts 8 you say? Luke discovers the empire has a doctors appointment?
2017-05-04 22:27:57 [INFO] <triztin> no no no
2017-05-04 22:28:08 [INFO] <triztin> its start wars 8. luke starts a new war
2017-05-04 22:28:08 [INFO] <gk_ryo> Thor Ragnarok.
2017-05-04 22:28:11 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> No spoilers, but you read the books...
2017-05-04 22:28:15 [INFO] <Zaliek> Luke finds out that darth vader is his father again, because he has ammesia!
2017-05-04 22:28:19 [INFO] <Azumarill> I did read the books
2017-05-04 22:28:24 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> You know there's no reason why it can't be this way.
2017-05-04 22:28:26 [INFO] <UNP> no, luke discovers that the reason the jedi failed is because they needed more people of color and didn't respect the 154 genders.
2017-05-04 22:28:44 [INFO] <Jellypants> isn't sam jackson enough?
2017-05-04 22:28:45 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> UNP, you're.... not a person of color I take it.
2017-05-04 22:28:51 [INFO] <UNP> and they wouldn't let people self-identify as a jedi
2017-05-04 22:28:58 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> Do you have friends who are, that you go on like this to?
2017-05-04 22:29:09 [INFO] <UNP> would it matter if i did?
2017-05-04 22:29:13 [INFO] <UNP> you'd still accuse me of racism
2017-05-04 22:29:20 [INFO] <UNP> and you'd use the "i've got a friend who" clause
2017-05-04 22:29:28 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> That's... not an answer.
2017-05-04 22:29:44 [INFO] <UNP> no, because i don't want you to control that particular part of the narrative
2017-05-04 22:29:52 [INFO] <UNP> tell me why my skin colour matters
2017-05-04 22:29:53 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> It would be interesting to know if you go on about PoC and women to PoC and women like you are here.
2017-05-04 22:30:01 [INFO] <Sapphric> stupid horse vanish bug
2017-05-04 22:30:01 [INFO] <UNP> lol
2017-05-04 22:30:10 [INFO] <AinivAlcyone> Sapp, Iktf
2017-05-04 22:30:13 [INFO] <UNP> what derogatory things have i said about women and ethnicities?
2017-05-04 22:30:14 [INFO] <UNP> go on
2017-05-04 22:30:17 [INFO] <UNP> quote me
2017-05-04 22:30:20 [INFO] <UNP> motherfucker
2017-05-04 22:30:21 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> I never said you did.
2017-05-04 22:30:27 [INFO] <Sapphric> Let's just find a new topic of conversation please
2017-05-04 22:30:27 [INFO] <Barlimore> Probably best to move to a pm conversation on this. ^
2017-05-04 22:30:29 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> I asked a pretty simple question.
2017-05-04 22:30:38 [INFO] <UNP> no, but you implied it, and anybody with half a brain can clearly see that.
2017-05-04 22:30:45 [INFO] <triztin> I'd agree with barli
2017-05-04 22:30:46 [INFO] <MartyMacGyver> Fair enough.
2017-05-04 22:30:49 [INFO] <Barlimore> Or we may have to mute both.
2017-05-04 22:31:00 [INFO] <UNP> triztin - of course you fucking would, because you're a kiss-arse

2017-05-04 22:31:04 [INFO] Barlimore issued server command: /mute unp

 

 

 

• Within chat recently, the topic of a television show came up and you dropped some hints towards the plot based on the book. An individual contacted you by pm to highlight that this is considered rude. While you ultimately deferred to me in an effort to get them to stop messaging you, there are moments within the logs which further echoed how you treat people in the community such as:

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2017-05-08 00:35:56 [INFO] [UNP -> REDACTED] bit of advice: stop pushing my buttons or i WILL spoil every major plot point in the book.

 

 

• The latest incident that I was online for was one in which both another party and yourself were taunting each other in public chat. For context, the other individual received a mute but after being unmuted, continued which resulted in a second (longer) mute and a conversation with them where they knew they would be banned on the next instance. When I spoke with them, they were polite and took heed at my latest warnings. This was not my experience when I muted you. Following are the logs / abuse I received from you on that day from your mute onwards (the ban baiting admission is highlighted in bold):
   
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  2017-05-08 01:48:25 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] when you and i both know I'VE been banned for a whole lot less for that in the past
  2017-05-08 01:49:21 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] I currently have both of you muted to prevent this conversation continuing. I will unmute within 10 minutes.
  2017-05-08 01:49:41 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] I'm not the one who fucking restarted the conversation
  2017-05-08 01:50:09 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] I'm not the one who accused another player of child molestation in public chat TWICE and got nothing done
  2017-05-08 01:50:19 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] No you didn't but you both participated in it so you have both been muted.
  2017-05-08 01:50:28 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] fuck your "zero tolerance" bullshit
  2017-05-08 01:50:37 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] i was just playing and he calls me a fucking child molester
  2017-05-08 01:51:02 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] and yet you mute us both because i was "participating"?
  2017-05-08 01:51:28 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] well you've just given me just cause to go all-out every fucking time someone wants to start me because i'll apparently be muted just for being the guy that gets attacked.
  2017-05-08 01:51:30 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] Yes, everyone in chat was asked to stop due to pending mutes. Both of you continued and have been temporarily muted.
  2017-05-08 01:51:42 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] you are a hypocrite
  2017-05-08 01:51:46 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] your staff are hypocrites

  2017-05-08 02:01:20 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] Hey UNP, would you mind doing me a favour please regarding REDACTED?
  2017-05-08 02:01:40 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] why should i do you any favours
  2017-05-08 02:02:01 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] It's more of a favour to yourself.
  2017-05-08 02:02:17 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] tell me and i'll decide based on what it is
  2017-05-08 02:02:32 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] Try to avoid engaging with REDACTED for now. I have asked the same of him so that you can both enjoy a more peaceful time in chat.
  2017-05-08 02:03:33 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] i'm not gonna talk to him, but if he starts with the accusations again, I AM going to defend myself. Calling someone a child molester in public is a hell of an indictment and it's my moral imperative and responsibility to defend myself against that
  2017-05-08 02:03:58 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] I wouldn't recommend engaging in another disruptive chat.
  2017-05-08 02:04:16 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] especially if you're going to continue ignoring your responsibility as admin to ban people who say shit like that after being asked not to and ESPECIALLY after our disussion the other day about you trying to stop people doing that to me.
  2017-05-08 02:04:40 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] so I'll do you that favour, if you ban REDACTED when - not if, but WHEN he starts up again
  2017-05-08 02:04:50 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] consider that a good faith favour to me
  2017-05-08 02:04:57 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] the dude you allowed to be accused of child molestation
  2017-05-08 02:05:18 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] REDACTED and I spoke at length about his chat conduct but it is your responsibility too to not rise to it.
  2017-05-08 02:05:43 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] there's a difference between rising to something and defending one's person from sickening accusations like that
  2017-05-08 02:06:31 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] i mean, you woul;dn't like it if i intimated in public chat that you like to fuck children, would you
  2017-05-08 02:06:37 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] in fact, i'd likely field a ban for that
  2017-05-08 02:06:53 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] They were met with a mute so they couldn't continue such accusations and spoken with privately over it. While it may not have been the outcome you were hoping for, you have to allow us to handle these situations not add fuel to the flames.
  2017-05-08 02:07:19 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] yeah, except the fact that you muted him the first time and he ignored you and started up almost as soon as you unmuted him
  2017-05-08 02:07:42 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] i was trying to get him to outright say what he meant in the hopes you would see it and act accordingly
  2017-05-08 02:07:51 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] Yes, that was disappointing so he endured a longer mute and a longer chat privately.
  2017-05-08 02:08:09 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] your actions afterwards and your words now make me doubt everything you ever said to me about trying to apply penalties more evenly
  2017-05-08 02:08:27 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] if only i knew that "evenly" meant "zero tolerance" and i'd be muted as well even though i was the victim
  2017-05-08 02:09:00 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] Now you know that when I ask for a conversation to move, I really do mean *everyone* when I say it.
  2017-05-08 02:09:28 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] so in other words, you're NOT going to apply penalties equally, you're just going to wait for me to inevitably take the gloves off when i see you doing nothing
  2017-05-08 02:09:33 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] and then mute everyone
  2017-05-08 02:09:41 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] like i said, you're a liar and a hypocrite
  2017-05-08 02:09:47 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] and no, i will not do you any favours
  2017-05-08 02:10:02 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] i'll do what i need to the next time someone wants to accuse me of child rape
  2017-05-08 02:10:39 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] In that case I'll keep the mute active for a while longer then if you intend to engage with REDACTED.
  2017-05-08 02:10:56 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] i don't intend on anything, like i said, i'm not going to initiate conversation with him
  2017-05-08 02:11:29 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] by the way, congratulations. You've made me lose every ounce of faith I had in you as an admin and every shred of respect I had for you as a person.
  2017-05-08 02:12:09 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] That's good and he knows how thin the ice is below him presently. If you also avoid engaging with him too, then I will unmute you immediately.
  2017-05-08 02:12:17 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] like i keep saying
  2017-05-08 02:12:25 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] i will not initiate a conversation with him
  2017-05-08 02:12:36 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] but if he starts up and i see you doing nothing
  2017-05-08 02:12:40 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] then i will defend myself
  2017-05-08 02:12:50 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] so you better be paying attention to what he says
  2017-05-08 02:13:08 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] We talked about this before, you can /modreq or contact someone on staff as you did earlier. Despite having to pay attention to the screen for the past few hours, I can't always do that.
  2017-05-08 02:13:24 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] Several of us are pinged for new modreqs.
  2017-05-08 02:13:31 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] we talked about a lot before and so far i've seen none of it in action
  2017-05-08 02:13:45 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] Did REDACTED follow up with you?
  2017-05-08 02:13:52 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] nope
  2017-05-08 02:13:57 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] ^
  2017-05-08 02:14:13 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] I can only act when I see / you tell me.
  2017-05-08 02:14:35 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] well then. you better be paying attention to the modreq queue then.
  2017-05-08 02:14:51 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] I get pinged for them, so that will be a good way of notifying me.
  2017-05-08 02:15:07 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] it's up to you if you want to unmute me or not. I've made my position clear. I refuse to engage in bootlicking to get privileges back.
  2017-05-08 02:15:20 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] but just consider that between me and him, I'm not the one making disgusting accusations.
  2017-05-08 02:15:32 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] I'm not asking you to bootlick. I'm asking you to stop engaging with him whether he initiates or not.
  2017-05-08 02:15:57 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] and i've said that i will not initiate, but if he starts on me and nobody does anything after i modreq
  2017-05-08 02:17:52 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] If you modreq, someone will take action as soon as they are able to.
  2017-05-08 02:18:34 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] Right. So, you've made your proposal, I've accepted it conditional on my own counter-proposal. It's now up to you to make a decision on whether to unmute me or not.
  2017-05-08 02:19:10 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] consider it a contract negotiation
  2017-05-08 02:20:15 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] We're not bargaining. I'm punishing you for engaging back to a situation that I asked for all parties to stop. While you have agreed to not initiate a conversation, I'll be ready to unmute you if you'll use modreq and not bite back.
  2017-05-08 02:20:35 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] i've made my position clear
  2017-05-08 02:20:58 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] Stay muted for now then.
  2017-05-08 02:21:01 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] make your decision and let me get back to actually playing this damn game instead of bureacratic horseshit
  2017-05-08 02:21:26 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] cool. So you just confirmed the depths of how hypocritical you're willing to be to keep me on the outside.
  2017-05-08 02:21:29 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] and for the record
  2017-05-08 02:21:35 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] making that observation isn't bannable.
  2017-05-08 02:23:36 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] oh and another thing for the record
  2017-05-08 02:23:57 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] Xedthered and c3nt both think what just happened is massive bullshit
  2017-05-08 02:24:01 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] so this time it's not just me
  2017-05-08 02:26:26 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] funny thing is if i'd called him a f-ggot you'd have banned me real fast
  2017-05-08 02:26:41 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] but i wouldn't do that because unlike him i'm not a complete piece of shit
  2017-05-08 02:28:45 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] This conversation isn't really going anywhere from here. I understand you wish to rant but that doesn't move us forward with the unmute.
  2017-05-08 02:29:10 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] oh i know, i'm just pointing out the various ways you've failed as both an admin and a person here
  2017-05-08 02:29:26 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] just so we're both clear on my thoughts on the matter
  2017-05-08 02:29:28 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] I could do without the theatrics please.
  2017-05-08 02:29:39 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] what theatrics?
  2017-05-08 02:30:17 [INFO] [UNP -> Barlimore] you know accusing someone of child molestation in a public venue can be considered a crime, and can also be a reasonable excuse for knocking the person's teeth out?
  2017-05-08 02:32:05 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] Alright, I think it would be best if you contacted me when you're ready to agree to all of what we talked about earlier.

  2017-05-08 02:47:53 [INFO] [Barlimore -> UNP] It's coming up to an hour since I muted you so I am going to unmute given how you have had time to cool off and are aware of how you should handle similar situations in future.

   

   

   

   

   

   

  I will give you the chance to respond before issuing a ban duration. Your response will weigh into that duration.

Edited May 10, 2017 by Barlimore

[UNP]

There's very little, if anything, I can say to exonerate myself here, and most of what I could say would be based on point of view, which unfortunately doesn't make for a good argument.

 

I will agree that I was massively disruptive very recently, in part due to the absolutely DISGUSTING accusation that was made against me and the perceived lack of response. As much in the right as I believe/ed I was, I was still a colossal jerkass about it afterwards.

 

So instead of pleas for mercy or "don't ban me" or whatever, how about this. As much as you and I DON'T see eye to eye on things, you do seem amenable to reason and compromise when approached in a certain fashion. So consider the following:

 

I don't grief - the idea of destroying someone else's shit for shits and giggles does not appeal to me.

I don't, and will never, X-ray - that would ruin the point of the game entirely, and unfairly deprive others of build materials and other things.

I don't obstructively build - I do my best to not get in the way of other peoples builds and would prefer to change my build to suit theirs rather than vice-versa (with few exceptions, although there are some)

 

So instead of hitting me with a long ban for being an arsehat in chat, I propose the following: a shorter ban, say a week or a fortnight, but after reinstating me, leave me publicly muted for a much, much longer period of your discretion. The problems you've been having with me are to do with my conversational issues, not those based around the game mechanics itself. So make the penalty relevant.

 

I would like to be allowed back on ASAP as I was having a really great time building that guardian/slime grinder for people in the south-west to use - it's officially the biggest grinder I'v e ever built and I spent a lot of time on it placing sand and whatnot. It's not quite complete and I'd like to get it that way so folks in that area can use it.

[Guest Former Staff]

When it comes to issuing a punishment for the ban, I am quite torn. A part of me tells me not to make the mistake of giving you another chance, however giving you another chance has always been my intent provided your responses in the appeal were tame compared to the UNP I have seen on P.

We are in agreement that you have continuously demonstrated that in chat, you are greatly disruptive. This recent week has resulted in a lot of my free time fielding complaints, moderating chat or simply just watching chat. Due to this experience, I feel that the appropriate ban duration is to take a week from you in return.

• You have already been banned for two days. I will unban you on Tuesday 16th to complete a week long ban.

While you're certainly not always the only party in the wrong or being disruptive, it rarely seems to happen while you are not present. For this reason, I have been considering a long-term mute.

• When you are unbanned, you will be muted for a month (31 days). The mute will expire on Friday 16th June.

[UNP]

That's fair. Thanks for being willing to take my compromise.

 

Do you need me to let you know on Tuesday? Or will the ban auto-expire?

[Guest Former Staff]

I'll manually remove your ban on Tuesday and respond here when that happens.

[Guest Former Staff]

You are now unbanned. We will mute you once you are next online.