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Barlimore, I adhered to your ingame request to not instigate any trouble with that specific player, and the only public discussion I was involved in at length today was one about bees. I did have a private discussion with MiniZuvy in regards to a personal issue he's having, but I was not abusive towards him and ceased communication after he requested it. As the last thing resulting in any conflict was the one I had that discussion with you about, and that was nearly 24 hours ago, I'm wondering why I was banned?

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Hello UNP, thank you for appealing.  I'm going to be a little busy for a while but I will properly respond to your appeal within 48 hours.

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I appreciate your patience there UNP. I'm looking to answer your question above about why you were banned.

Within your ban message, I banned you with the message "Ban baiting, disrespectful, disruptive & harassing." for breaking the following four rules:

  • Be respectful and civil toward your fellow players
  • No harassment or excessive trolling
  • No disruptive arguments/discussions in global chat
  • No “ban baiting”

There has not been a specific instance that has resulted in your ban, it has been a culmination of incidents. Your rude interaction with TESLAray via private message on the day of your ban was merely the straw that broke the camels back.

In recent weeks, 6 chat-related notes were removed from your mcbouncer notes seemingly due to you changing and the notes no longer being relevant. You have since received two new chat-related notes, and from the hundreds of times the ignore command has been run on P since the reset, you alone equate to 47% of all ignores. While I am providing some logs within this post, searching 'UNP' over 30 days on P here will also provide an array of results which could have also been included into this appeal, for anyone willing to see for themselves.

  • During a land claim dispute being handled by another padmin, you ended the three-way discussion and promptly threatened the other user by pm:
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2017-04-25 19:29:52 [INFO] [UNP -> REDACTED] brick in my shit again and I will find a way to destroy everything you've built.

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  • During a conversation with a moderator who was elevating your request to a padmin, you provided a torrent of abusive messages including, but far from limited to:
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2017-04-30 21:43:10 [INFO] [UNP -> REDACTED] so what the fuck is the problem exactly
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  • Your discussions in global chat have mostly been disruptive or argumentative. Take the following example where you argued with yourself for four minutes in public chat following a restart until someone responded. This incident resulted in you receiving a mute.
     
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  • Within chat recently, the topic of a television show came up and you dropped some hints towards the plot based on the book. An individual contacted you by pm to highlight that this is considered rude. While you ultimately deferred to me in an effort to get them to stop messaging you, there are moments within the logs which further echoed how you treat people in the community such as:
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2017-05-08 00:35:56 [INFO] [UNP -> REDACTED] bit of advice: stop pushing my buttons or i WILL spoil every major plot point in the book.

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  • The latest incident that I was online for was one in which both another party and yourself were taunting each other in public chat. For context, the other individual received a mute but after being unmuted, continued which resulted in a second (longer) mute and a conversation with them where they knew they would be banned on the next instance. When I spoke with them, they were polite and took heed at my latest warnings. This was not my experience when I muted you. Following are the logs / abuse I received from you on that day from your mute onwards (the ban baiting admission is highlighted in bold):
     
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    I will give you the chance to respond before issuing a ban duration. Your response will weigh into that duration.

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There's very little, if anything, I can say to exonerate myself here, and most of what I could say would be based on point of view, which unfortunately doesn't make for a good argument.

 

I will agree that I was massively disruptive very recently, in part due to the absolutely DISGUSTING accusation that was made against me and the perceived lack of response. As much in the right as I believe/ed I was, I was still a colossal jerkass about it afterwards.

 

So instead of pleas for mercy or "don't ban me" or whatever, how about this. As much as you and I DON'T see eye to eye on things, you do seem amenable to reason and compromise when approached in a certain fashion. So consider the following:

 

I don't grief - the idea of destroying someone else's shit for shits and giggles does not appeal to me.

I don't, and will never, X-ray - that would ruin the point of the game entirely, and unfairly deprive others of build materials and other things.

I don't obstructively build - I do my best to not get in the way of other peoples builds and would prefer to change my build to suit theirs rather than vice-versa (with few exceptions, although there are some)

 

So instead of hitting me with a long ban for being an arsehat in chat, I propose the following: a shorter ban, say a week or a fortnight, but after reinstating me, leave me publicly muted for a much, much longer period of your discretion. The problems you've been having with me are to do with my conversational issues, not those based around the game mechanics itself. So make the penalty relevant.

 

I would like to be allowed back on ASAP as I was having a really great time building that guardian/slime grinder for people in the south-west to use - it's officially the biggest grinder I'v e ever built and I spent a lot of time on it placing sand and whatnot. It's not quite complete and I'd like to get it that way so folks in that area can use it.

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When it comes to issuing a punishment for the ban, I am quite torn. A part of me tells me not to make the mistake of giving you another chance, however giving you another chance has always been my intent provided your responses in the appeal were tame compared to the UNP I have seen on P.

We are in agreement that you have continuously demonstrated that in chat, you are greatly disruptive. This recent week has resulted in a lot of my free time fielding complaints, moderating chat or simply just watching chat. Due to this experience, I feel that the appropriate ban duration is to take a week from you in return.

  • You have already been banned for two days. I will unban you on Tuesday 16th to complete a week long ban.

While you're certainly not always the only party in the wrong or being disruptive, it rarely seems to happen while you are not present. For this reason, I have been considering a long-term mute.

  • When you are unbanned, you will be muted for a month (31 days). The mute will expire on Friday 16th June.
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