Skewer Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Hi, I was banned for "noclip". After googling what this meant I came across "noclip mode is a video game cheat command that prevents the first-person player character camera from being obstructed by other objects and permits the camera to move in any direction, allowing it to pass through such things as walls, props, and other players." Now doesn't that mean that's using a flyhack which obviously I am not stupid enough to do? I'd like to see some proof of me flying if possible. Your friend, Skewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrloud15 Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Ban information: Ban for Skewer on c.nerd.nu for noclip nerd.nu/appeal by totemo on 2013-08-24 18:51:12 (no more bans, 4 notes) Please be patient and totemo will be with you as soon as they can. If no one has attended to your appeal after 48 hours have past, please feel free to BUMP (Bring Up My Post) your appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyotie911 Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 I am redacting the permaban for the time being. However you do little to squash my beliefs that this account is not an account that might just be used by multiple people. It leaves me very suspect to believe that 2 different people decided to appeal seperately minutes apart from each other after both accounts have been banned for months. Ill leave this appeal for totemo to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 So let's sort this out. Skewer: you have the same IP address as PunchMyTree. You're the same person, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skewer Posted December 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) No I am not the same person. You can check the times we played and we always played together. I repeat, we are NOT the same person. We appealed at the same time because we'd like to start playing again. Edited December 11, 2013 by Skewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 So what is your relationship to PunchMyTree? How come you always share the same IP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skewer Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 We live together, so hence the same IP. We will always have the same IP, as long as we are playing S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrloud15 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 BUMP for totemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I have not yet had time to process this appeal in full. I've had many higher priority tasks on my plate: The upgrade to 1.7.2. The survival reset. Seasonal events on PvE. Moderator client tools (work in progress). The evidence for this appeal is long and involved and will take me some time to organise for coherent presentation. It takes into account several incidents involving Skewer and his brother (yes, I knew before I asked) PunchMyTree where one would xray and grief using an alternate account and the other would pass the items to his accomplice by dying (usually from jumping off a high rail structure above their base). In the final summation, they netted in excess of 200 silk touched diamond ores, plus numerous valuable blocks that they griefed from a base on the same road as their own base. The connection between the alternate accounts and their primary accounts is established, for the most part, only indirectly by movement of items between accounts. Skewer's use of noclip hacks to access his chest provided the final confirmation of the requirement for a ban. Prior to that I was hoping to observe these incidents directly. Given their past history of xray, and with the volume of evidence that I have uncovered, I intend to impose a ban of 12 months each, in lieu of a permanent sentence. And hence, I have felt no particular sense of urgency regarding this appeal, in comparison to my other tasks. I believe I'll have sufficient time to deal with it all early in the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skewer Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I have not yet had time to process this appeal in full. I've had many higher priority tasks on my plate: The upgrade to 1.7.2. The survival reset. Seasonal events on PvE. Moderator client tools (work in progress). The evidence for this appeal is long and involved and will take me some time to organise for coherent presentation. It takes into account several incidents involving Skewer and his brother (yes, I knew before I asked) PunchMyTree where one would xray and grief using an alternate account and the other would pass the items to his accomplice by dying (usually from jumping off a high rail structure above their base). In the final summation, they netted in excess of 200 silk touched diamond ores, plus numerous valuable blocks that they griefed from a base on the same road as their own base. The connection between the alternate accounts and their primary accounts is established, for the most part, only indirectly by movement of items between accounts. Skewer's use of noclip hacks to access his chest provided the final confirmation of the requirement for a ban. Prior to that I was hoping to observe these incidents directly. Given their past history of xray, and with the volume of evidence that I have uncovered, I intend to impose a ban of 12 months each, in lieu of a permanent sentence. And hence, I have felt no particular sense of urgency regarding this appeal, in comparison to my other tasks. I believe I'll have sufficient time to deal with it all early in the new year. I hope you have some time now to review our accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Indeed. Although I still have many technical tasks on my plate, the festive season is now over and I have had some time to reflect on these appeals. I will finalise this appeal by this time tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 To the first matter: accessing chests through walls: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 To the second matter: xraying with alts. I'm dealing with you, Skewer, and PunchMyTree as one indivisible unit. By your own testimony you are brothers: You live together (in real life and in game) and you both benefited from xraying. Of the 84 diamond ores broken by Skewer, 67 were silk-touched by evert_dutch, who was banned for xraying. evert_dutch was a brand new player who used a silk-touch diamond pickaxe that he acquired firstly from Skewer by killing Skewer with the rule book (as if Skewer would allow himself to be killed). After evert_dutch had xrayed 31 diamond ores, Skewer kills him for the ores and the diamond pickaxe. Four minutes later, Skewer suicides by jumping off the railway tower at his base, again dropping the pickaxe so that evert_dutch can xray and silk touch the remaining 36 ores of the 67. I have no doubt that evert_dutch was under the control of one of either Skewer or PunchMyTree. In the linked CivCraft appeal "Our Apology", PunchMyTree states that "event_dutch" (a deliberate but subtle misspelling intended to grant some plausible deniability and protect the name of the real alt, evert_dutch) is his alternate account. PunchMyTree acquired 130 diamond ores from jaymie129, also banned for xray. PunchMyTree has two prior bans for xray: http://nerd.nu/archives/index.php?p=/discussion/14902 http://nerd.nu/archives/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/66013 PunchMyTree's prior xray bans factored into the ban duration I imposed, together with the two xray incidents here by alternate accounts. The most blatant evidence in this is the passing of the silk touch diamond pickaxe between Skewer and evert_dutch, back and forth a couple of times, while conveniently moving diamond ores to the Skewer/PunchMyTree base. For the remainder of the evidence I am simply going to copy my remarks from admin discussions, with personally identifying IP addresses expunged. More to follow shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Diamond ore edits: PunchMyTree placing and breaking 130 silk-touched diamond ores on the day that jaymie129 was banned for xray: Skewer's trace showing placement and destruction of 67 silk-touched diamond ores in addition to 17 diamond destructions "in the wild": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 My remarks in admin discussions from Aug 19, 2013: We had an xrayer on survival today named jaymie129. He was on for just 30 minutes and mined 133 diamond ore. About an hour later, PunchMyTree broke 130 diamond ore. PunchMyTree has virtually no diamond edits apart from placing and breaking ores. The normal trace of someone who was silk touching diamonds and taking them back to base to fortune them would show approximately twice as many destructions as diamond ore constructions. Whereas PunchMyTree and his clan mate Skewer both have about equal numbers of diamond ore constructions and destructions each. The other clan member, Wakaru, has too few diamond edits to mention. Timeline today: Note that: jaymie129 died carrying coal ore, likely indicating that someone gave him a silk touch pick. He logs in after restart at the same time as Skewer, but so did just everybody else. 2013-08-18 12:40:05 | PunchMyTree lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-18 12:40:05 | §ePunchMyTree left the game. 2013-08-18 13:02:39 | PunchMyTree has 6 notes. 2013-08-18 13:02:39 | PunchMyTree[/iP EXPUNGED:52145] logged in with entity id 440226 at ([world] -177.00515750760945, 63.0, 1.4785911173099753) 2013-08-18 13:02:39 | [strikeDeath] PunchMyTree + K:D - Deaths: 96 Kills: 158 2013-08-18 13:02:46 | CH: Running original command on player PunchMyTree ----> /modlist 2013-08-18 13:03:03 | PunchMyTree lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-18 13:03:03 | §ePunchMyTree left the game. 2013-08-18 14:06:50 | Skewer pressed button at -299x, 133y, -17z 2013-08-18 14:08:41 | Skewer pressed button at -299x, 133y, -17z 2013-08-18 14:09:44 | Skewer killed Emercery with a bow 2013-08-18 14:12:43 | <Skewer> LOL 2013-08-18 14:12:59 | [WARNING] Skewer moved wrongly! 2013-08-18 14:12:59 | GetaFever killed Skewer with a iron sword 2013-08-18 14:12:59 | [KitchenSink] [drops] Skewer, 1xMINECART:0, 3xBAKED_POTATO:0, 1xIRON_PICKAXE:11, 1xIRON_SWORD:-89(FIRE_ASPECT:2), 49xSMOOTH_BRICK:0, 1xBOW:21, 2xSTONE:0 2013-08-18 14:18:26 | jaymie129[/iP EXPUNGED:49948] logged in with entity id 1615290 at ([world] -1.5, 108.0, -1.5) 2013-08-18 14:18:26 | [strikeDeath] jaymie129 + K:D - Deaths: 0 Kills: 0 2013-08-18 14:23:14 | Skewer pressed button at -294x, 75y, -10z 2013-08-18 14:23:39 | Skewer pressed button at -297x, 102y, -14z 2013-08-18 14:23:42 | Skewer pressed button at -297x, 102y, -14z 2013-08-18 14:23:49 | Skewer pressed button at -297x, 102y, -14z 2013-08-18 14:24:35 | Skewer issued server command: /lock wakaru punchmytree 2013-08-18 14:25:22 | Skewer issued server command: /lock wakaru punchmytree 2013-08-18 14:31:01 | §eSkewer left the game. 2013-08-18 14:31:01 | §ejaymie129 left the game. 2013-08-18 14:31:11 # starting minecraft server 2013-08-18 14:31:25 | Skewer has 4 notes. 2013-08-18 14:31:26 | Skewer[/iP EXPUNGED:51279] logged in with entity id 981 at ([world] -300.01102544286346, 73.0, -13.699999988079076) 2013-08-18 14:31:26 | [strikeDeath] Skewer + K:D - Deaths: 128 Kills: 245 2013-08-18 14:31:26 | jaymie129[/iP EXPUNGED:50275] logged in with entity id 1784 at ([world] -695.5386320650983, 10.0, -115.10073415698486) 2013-08-18 14:31:26 | [strikeDeath] jaymie129 + K:D - Deaths: 0 Kills: 0 2013-08-18 14:33:24 | Skewer issued server command: /lock wakaru punchmytree 2013-08-18 14:36:35 | Skewer lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-18 14:36:35 | §eSkewer left the game. 2013-08-18 14:37:37 | Skewer has 4 notes. 2013-08-18 14:37:37 | Skewer[/iP EXPUNGED:51288] logged in with entity id 52647 at ([world] -313.69999998807907, 148.0, 5.682850076130004) 2013-08-18 14:37:37 | [strikeDeath] Skewer + K:D - Deaths: 128 Kills: 245 2013-08-18 14:39:15 | Skewer issued server command: /lock wakaru punchmytree 2013-08-18 14:49:15 | [KitchenSink] [drops] jaymie129, 1xWRITTEN_BOOK:0, 1xWRITTEN_BOOK:0, 11xCARROT_ITEM:0, 49xDIRT:0, 14xSTONE:0, 17xCOAL_ORE:0, 7xSAND:0 2013-08-18 14:49:15 | jaymie129 fell from a high place 2013-08-18 14:49:39 | jaymie129 lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-18 14:49:39 | §ejaymie129 left the game. 2013-08-18 14:51:02 | Skewer lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-18 14:51:02 | §eSkewer left the game. 2013-08-18 14:52:00 | PunchMyTree has 6 notes. 2013-08-18 14:52:00 | PunchMyTree[/iP EXPUNGED:50809] logged in with entity id 228402 at ([world] -295.3082137044564, 73.0, -1.4697873551312672) 2013-08-18 14:52:00 | [strikeDeath] PunchMyTree + K:D - Deaths: 96 Kills: 158 2013-08-18 14:52:12 | CH: Running original command on player PunchMyTree ----> /mail inbox 2013-08-18 14:52:46 | [KitchenSink] [drops] PunchMyTree 2013-08-18 14:52:46 | PunchMyTree fell from a high place 2013-08-18 14:56:53 | <PunchMyTree> hiya 2013-08-18 14:56:57 | <PunchMyTree> please leave 2013-08-18 14:56:58 | <PunchMyTree> :) 2013-08-18 15:11:12 | Skewer has 4 notes. 2013-08-18 15:11:12 | Skewer[/iP EXPUNGED:51805] logged in with entity id 471667 at ([world] -282.7149468663285, 126.0, -17.48926238248764) 2013-08-18 15:11:12 | [strikeDeath] Skewer + K:D - Deaths: 128 Kills: 245 2013-08-18 15:15:09 | [NoCheatPlus] Skewer failed SurvivalFly: tried to move from -281.41, 125.23, -17.40 to -281.55, 125.08, -17.40 over a distance of 0.21 block(s). VL 1215. 2013-08-18 15:15:11 | §eSkewer left the game. 2013-08-18 15:15:11 | [NoCheatPlus] (CONSOLE) Kicked Skewer : Kicked for flying (or related) 2013-08-18 15:15:17 | Skewer has 4 notes. 2013-08-18 15:15:17 | Skewer[/iP EXPUNGED:51812] logged in with entity id 538840 at ([world] -284.5456422128222, 128.07835507270218, -17.408891466681922) 2013-08-18 15:15:17 | [strikeDeath] Skewer + K:D - Deaths: 128 Kills: 245 2013-08-18 15:16:41 | Skewer pressed button at -299x, 133y, -17z 2013-08-18 15:18:05 | Skewer pressed button at -299x, 133y, -17z 2013-08-18 15:18:10 | [KitchenSink] [drops] Skewer, 2xSPIDER_EYE:0, 6xCARROT_ITEM:0, 6xSMOOTH_BRICK:0, 4xCOBBLESTONE:0, 1xSTEP:5, 8xIRON_ORE:0, 1xSTONE_PICKAXE:88, 1xSTRING:0, 2xSUGAR_CANE:0, 4xWOOD:0 2013-08-18 15:18:10 | Skewer fell from a high place 2013-08-18 15:21:33 | Skewer pressed button at -297x, 102y, -14z 2013-08-18 15:21:34 | Skewer pressed button at -297x, 102y, -14z 2013-08-18 15:21:34 | Skewer pressed button at -297x, 102y, -14z 2013-08-18 15:21:36 | Skewer pressed button at -297x, 102y, -14z 2013-08-18 15:23:04 | Skewer pressed button at -299x, 133y, -17z 2013-08-18 15:25:42 | Skewer pressed button at -297x, 102y, -14z 2013-08-18 15:25:50 | Skewer pressed button at -294x, 75y, -10z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Further remarks by me on the 19th: Extracts from traces: PunchMyTree: created 143, destroyed 147 diamond oreAll except 4 of these in their portal base. Skewer: created 67, destroyed 84 diamond ore All except 17 of these in the portal base. Wakaru mined 8 diamonds underground and that is all. All diamond deposits. Note that placed, silk touched diamonds get condensed down into a single deposit of just a few. Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] There are 46 ore deposits. Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 1) 08-10 19:40:12 ( -299 12 20) 56 [ 4] Skewer Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 2) 08-10 20:20:16 ( -393 14 28) 56 [ 8] Wakaru Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 3) 08-11 14:24:16 (-1123 10 -521) 56 [ 4] PunchMyTree Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 4) 08-11 14:31:53 (-1121 12 -589) 56 [ 6] Skewer Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 5) 08-11 14:35:34 (-1109 9 -598) 56 [ 7] Skewer Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 6) 08-15 09:36:10 ( -298 73 -17) 56 [12] PunchMyTree Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 7) 08-18 14:23:17 ( -662 3 -75) 56 [ 5] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 8) 08-18 14:23:51 ( -670 3 -78) 56 [ 2] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 9) 08-18 14:24:25 ( -653 5 -63) 56 [ 5] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 10) 08-18 14:25:42 ( -628 13 -65) 56 [ 4] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 11) 08-18 14:26:43 ( -619 6 -79) 56 [ 4] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 12) 08-18 14:27:02 ( -609 8 -76) 56 [ 5] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 13) 08-18 14:27:42 ( -635 6 -84) 56 [ 5] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 14) 08-18 14:28:05 ( -635 3 -101) 56 [ 7] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 15) 08-18 14:29:36 ( -647 7 -117) 56 [ 4] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 16) 08-18 14:29:54 ( -662 7 -116) 56 [ 6] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 17) 08-18 14:30:24 ( -672 10 -111) 56 [ 4] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 18) 08-18 14:30:52 ( -697 10 -113) 56 [ 6] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 19) 08-18 14:32:12 ( -694 9 -137) 56 [ 6] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 20) 08-18 14:32:31 ( -696 9 -144) 56 [ 6] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 21) 08-18 14:33:17 ( -706 6 -136) 56 [ 5] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 22) 08-18 14:34:06 ( -708 7 -160) 56 [ 4] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 23) 08-18 14:34:16 ( -715 8 -153) 56 [ 5] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 24) 08-18 14:34:27 ( -722 9 -153) 56 [ 8] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 25) 08-18 14:35:04 ( -708 7 -179) 56 [ 8] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 26) 08-18 14:35:48 ( -727 8 -191) 56 [ 4] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 27) 08-18 14:36:16 ( -745 11 -189) 56 [ 5] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 28) 08-18 14:37:53 ( -772 13 -189) 56 [ 4] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 29) 08-18 14:38:16 ( -773 5 -203) 56 [ 6] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 30) 08-18 14:38:34 ( -781 7 -208) 56 [ 6] jaymie129 Client> 2013-08-19 20:45:28 [iNFO] [Minecraft-Client] [CHAT] ( 31) 08-18 14:39:13 ( -786 9 -189) 56 [ 6] jaymie129 From the above list of ore deposits (Watson) we can see that by actual mining: Skewer mined 3 diamond deposits of 4, 6 and 7 (total 17) diamonds. PunchMyTree mined 4 diamonds. Wakaru mined 8 diamonds only In total, Skewer and PunchMyTree have aquired mined 21 diamonds in the wild but 210 diamond ore are unaccounted for. I have been taking screenshots of all of these things including the contents of the chests in the base. It seems that most of the diamonds are in those chests at the portal base still. I feel that I've spent too much time on this now. Will post more screenshots later. However, I will note the following facts from the logs: jaymie129's first edit was just down the road (away from spawn) from Skewer/PunchMyTree's base. His last edit was back up the road towards spawn, where he griefed Dando2's lapis floor (for the second time in as many days), at 14:47, two minutes before he died with almost no items on him. Skewer's many button presses were on the railway line above his portal base. Skewer's log in coordinates after restart were just behind the iron door (safe side) at his portal base. There's also a suspicious amount of lapis blocks in Skewer's chest. Note that the first time Dando2's lapis floor was griefed, it had diamond and I think gold blocks in it too. Maybe Skewer is sentimental about his trophies. Skewer has mined a total of 5 lapis ore. PunchMyTree has mined none. Wakaru none also. None of these players has any edits of condensed lapis blocks. evert_dutch, the other tplayer who xrayed and then griefed Dando2's floor mined 67 diamond ore, coincidentally the exact number that Sketwer placed. evert_dutch also broke exactly 21 lapis blocks - the same number in Skewer's chest. Also 2 diamond blocks - the same number as in Skewer's chest. And 4 Gold blocks.. Skewer's chest contains 3 gold blocks and 3 gold bars. Skewer, PunchMyTree and Wakaru have mined 7, 24 and 2 (total 33) gold ore between them. Some gold could conceivably have been acquired from pigmen. Screenshots below illustrate these points: I also have screenshots of their respective ender chests (Wakaru has nothing in his) and I'll post those later. Dando2's base lapis and spawn to the left. Skewer's base centre. jaymie129's first (crop) edits to the right. Skewer's Chest: PunchMyTree's top chest: Evert Dutch: Lapis: Skewer's button: Skewer's login point: It would seem to me that evert_dutch and jaymie129 were in fact carbon copy incidents where xray was used, Dando2's base was griefed and diamond ores were dropped off to Skewer through the door of his base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 My initial remarks on Aug 20, 2013: Oh and one final point I missed before I think: both evert_dutch and jaymie129 left empty ender chests. I copied their player data to mine to check. They also did not place any chests, trapped chests, furnaces, hoppers, droppers or dispensers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 My further remarks on the 20th: Adding the relevant server logs from evert_dutch: Notable: 12:58:03 - Skewer logs out 12:59:45 - evert_dutch logs in at as a brand new player 13:01:27 - Skewer logs in at at his base near the portal 13:02:34 - evert_dutch kills Skewer with a written book - Skewer drops the E4ST1U3 diamond pick that evert_dutch uses to mine. He drops no armour and just a stone sword. 13:09:36 - 13:13:06 - evert_dutch xrays diamonds (see screenshot at bottom) 13:16:22 - Skewer kills evert_dutch who drops the diamond pick, 31 diamond ore, and the proceeds of griefing Dando2's base, including 2 diamond blocks, 4 gold blocks, 14 iron blocks and 21 lapis blocks. 13:17:53 - Skewer logs out again. 13:19:31 - Skewer logs back in again at his portal base. 13:20:13 - Skewer dies by falling, presumably from the railway above his portal base. He drops the E4ST1U3 diamond pick again and the iron blocks. The diamond ores and the other proceeds of griefing Dando2's base are already stowed in Skewer's chest. 13:22:07 - 13:26:46 - evert_dutch xrays diamonds (see screenshot at bottom) 13:34:54 - evert_dutch dies by falling, dropping another 36 diamond ore and the E4ST1U3 diamond pickaxe. Also some iron and gold ores. 2013-08-17 12:44:59 | Skewer killed Evil_Person with a stone sword 2013-08-17 12:45:10 | [KitchenSink] [drops] Skewer, 1xSTONE_SWORD:10(DAMAGE_ALL:4,FIRE_ASPECT:2,DURABILITY:3), 8xCARROT_ITEM:0 2013-08-17 12:45:10 | Skewer fell from a high place 2013-08-17 12:45:51 | TopHatJohn killed Skewer with a iron axe 2013-08-17 12:45:51 | [KitchenSink] [drops] Skewer 2013-08-17 12:46:42 | Skewer killed TopHatJohn with a fist 2013-08-17 12:46:46 | <Skewer> wtf lol 2013-08-17 12:47:03 | CH: Running original command on player Skewer ----> /modlist 2013-08-17 12:47:24 | Skewer killed TopHatJohn with a stone sword 2013-08-17 12:47:28 | TopHatJohn killed Skewer with a fist 2013-08-17 12:47:28 | [KitchenSink] [drops] Skewer, 1xSTONE_SWORD:19 2013-08-17 12:47:42 | Skewer lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-17 12:47:42 | §eSkewer left the game. 2013-08-17 12:54:58 | Skewer has 4 notes. 2013-08-17 12:54:58 | Skewer[/iP EXPUNGED:50851] logged in with entity id 261605 at ([world] -28.016809524290355, 74.0, 1.386245179705355) 2013-08-17 12:54:58 | [strikeDeath] Skewer + K:D - Deaths: 95 Kills: 173 2013-08-17 12:58:03 | Skewer lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-17 12:58:03 | §eSkewer left the game. 2013-08-17 12:59:45 | evert_dutch[/iP EXPUNGED:53989] logged in with entity id 292726 at ([world] 0.5, 108.0, -2.5) 2013-08-17 12:59:45 | [strikeDeath] evert_dutch + K:D - Deaths: 0 Kills: 0 2013-08-17 13:01:27 | Skewer has 4 notes. 2013-08-17 13:01:27 | Skewer[/iP EXPUNGED:51048] logged in with entity id 304724 at ([world] -300.5693903565421, 73.0, -15.080161640067756) 2013-08-17 13:01:27 | [strikeDeath] Skewer + K:D - Deaths: 95 Kills: 173 2013-08-17 13:02:34 | evert_dutch killed Skewer with a written book 2013-08-17 13:02:34 | [KitchenSink] [drops] Skewer, 1xSTONE_SWORD:8, 1xDIAMOND_PICKAXE:0(DIG_SPEED:4,SILK_TOUCH:1,DURABILITY:3) 2013-08-17 13:02:34 | evert_dutch killed Skewer with a written book 2013-08-17 13:06:41 | evert_dutch lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-17 13:06:41 | §eevert_dutch left the game. 2013-08-17 13:06:46 | evert_dutch[/iP EXPUNGED:54087] logged in with entity id 326468 at ([world] -497.54218486028844, 76.0, 23.366305818106724) 2013-08-17 13:06:46 | [strikeDeath] evert_dutch + K:D - Deaths: 0 Kills: 1 2013-08-17 13:07:31 | [NoCheatPlus] evert_dutch failed SurvivalFly: tried to move from -501.38, 45.85, 32.48 to -501.38, 45.41, 32.48 over a distance of 0.45 block(s). VL 1427. 2013-08-17 13:08:21 | evert_dutch lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-17 13:08:21 | §eevert_dutch left the game. 2013-08-17 13:08:27 | evert_dutch[/iP EXPUNGED:54100] logged in with entity id 337934 at ([world] -501.375974179794, 28.0, 32.47975410954075) 2013-08-17 13:08:27 | [strikeDeath] evert_dutch + K:D - Deaths: 0 Kills: 1 2013-08-17 13:08:49 | evert_dutch lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-17 13:08:49 | §eevert_dutch left the game. 2013-08-17 13:08:53 | evert_dutch[/iP EXPUNGED:54110] logged in with entity id 343620 at ([world] -501.375974179794, 22.0, 32.47975410954075) 2013-08-17 13:08:53 | [strikeDeath] evert_dutch + K:D - Deaths: 0 Kills: 1 2013-08-17 13:10:37 | [NoCheatPlus] evert_dutch failed WrongBlock: broke another block than clicked. VL 31. 2013-08-17 13:10:37 | §eevert_dutch left the game. 2013-08-17 13:10:37 | [NoCheatPlus] (CONSOLE) Kicked evert_dutch : Block breaking out of sync! 2013-08-17 13:10:44 | evert_dutch[/iP EXPUNGED:54130] logged in with entity id 365609 at ([world] -499.50868863980395, 5.0, 65.75172159536244) 2013-08-17 13:10:44 | [strikeDeath] evert_dutch + K:D - Deaths: 0 Kills: 1 2013-08-17 13:10:49 | [NoCheatPlus] evert_dutch failed WrongBlock: broke another block than clicked. VL 32. 2013-08-17 13:10:49 | §eevert_dutch left the game. 2013-08-17 13:10:49 | [NoCheatPlus] (CONSOLE) Kicked evert_dutch : Block breaking out of sync! 2013-08-17 13:10:57 | evert_dutch[/iP EXPUNGED:54137] logged in with entity id 367319 at ([world] -499.50868863980395, 5.0, 65.75172159536244) 2013-08-17 13:10:57 | [strikeDeath] evert_dutch + K:D - Deaths: 0 Kills: 1 2013-08-17 13:16:22 | Skewer killed evert_dutch with a stone sword 2013-08-17 13:16:22 | [KitchenSink] [drops] evert_dutch, 1xDIAMOND_PICKAXE:-108(DIG_SPEED:4,SILK_TOUCH:1,DURABILITY:3), 57xSTONE:0, 1xSTONE_SWORD:13, 35xDIRT:0, 18xCARROT_ITEM:0, 2xDIAMOND_BLOCK:0, 4xGOLD_BLOCK:0, 14xIRON_BLOCK:0, 21xLAPIS_BLOCK:0, 2xREDSTONE_ORE:0, 1xTORCH:0, 64xSTONE:0, 2xCOAL_ORE:0, 64xSTONE:0, 31xDIAMOND_ORE:0, 64xSTONE:0, 27xIRON_ORE:0, 64xSTONE:0, 1xWRITTEN_BOOK:0, 1xGOLD_ORE:0, 54xSTONE:0, 15xGRAVEL:0 2013-08-17 13:17:53 | Skewer lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-17 13:17:53 | §eSkewer left the game. 2013-08-17 13:19:07 | Trooprm32 issued server command: /trace-r evert_dutch 2013-08-17 13:19:10 | CH: Running original command on player Trooprm32 ----> /trace-r evert_dutch 10 2013-08-17 13:19:29 | [WARNING] evert_dutch moved wrongly! 2013-08-17 13:19:31 | Skewer has 4 notes. 2013-08-17 13:19:31 | Skewer[/iP EXPUNGED:51187] logged in with entity id 424474 at ([world] -301.69999998807907, 73.0, -13.837506094387495) 2013-08-17 13:19:31 | [strikeDeath] Skewer + K:D - Deaths: 96 Kills: 174 2013-08-17 13:20:13 | [KitchenSink] [drops] Skewer, 21xCARROT_ITEM:0, 1xDIAMOND_PICKAXE:-108(DIG_SPEED:4,SILK_TOUCH:1,DURABILITY:3), 64xSTONE:0, 35xDIRT:0, 64xSEEDS:0, 1xSTONE_PICKAXE:7, 1xIRON_SWORD:40(DAMAGE_ALL:4,FIRE_ASPECT:2), 64xSTONE:0, 64xSTONE:0, 64xSTONE:0, 1xWRITTEN_BOOK:0, 47xSTONE:0, 14xIRON_BLOCK:0, 1xSTONE_SWORD:13, 2xTORCH:0, 5xSTRING:0, 1xIRON_PICKAXE:-12, 14xLOG:0 2013-08-17 13:20:13 | Skewer fell from a high place 2013-08-17 13:20:52 | Skewer pressed button at -171x, 65y, 7z 2013-08-17 13:21:14 | Dando2 killed Skewer with a potion 2013-08-17 13:21:14 | [KitchenSink] [drops] Skewer 2013-08-17 13:21:58 | CH: Running original command on player Trooprm32 ----> /trace evert_dutch 2013-08-17 13:22:21 | Skewer killed Dando2 with a stone sword 2013-08-17 13:24:26 | Trooprm32 issued server command: /trace-r evert_dutch 2013-08-17 13:24:28 | CH: Running original command on player Trooprm32 ----> /trace-r evert_dutch 10 2013-08-17 13:24:31 | Skewer issued server command: /lock 2013-08-17 13:24:36 | Skewer issued server command: /lock 2013-08-17 13:24:45 | CH: Running original command on player Trooprm32 ----> /lbrb-r evert_dutch 10 2013-08-17 13:24:46 | Skewer issued server command: /lock punchmytree 2013-08-17 13:25:02 | Skewer issued server command: /lock punchmytree 2013-08-17 13:26:03 | CH: Running original command on player buzzie71 ----> /trace evert_dutch 2013-08-17 13:26:53 | CH: Running original command on player Trooprm32 ----> /trace evert_dutch 2013-08-17 13:27:01 | buzzie71 issued server command: /lb player evert_dutch block diamond_ore since 7d sum b 2013-08-17 13:29:15 | buzzie71 issued server command: /lb player evert_dutch block diamond_ore coords 2013-08-17 13:29:20 | [KitchenSink] [drops] Skewer, 1xSTONE_SWORD:103 2013-08-17 13:29:20 | Skewer was slain by Zombie Pigman 2013-08-17 13:31:13 | buzzie71 issued server command: /lb area 5 player evert_dutch sum b 2013-08-17 13:33:52 | Skewer killed Orochikaku with a stone sword 2013-08-17 13:34:15 | <Skewer> yep 2013-08-17 13:34:54 | [KitchenSink] [drops] evert_dutch, 41xCARROT_ITEM:0, 1xSTONE_SWORD:13, 64xSTONE:0, 64xSEEDS:0, 64xSTONE:0, 1xDIAMOND_PICKAXE:30(DIG_SPEED:4,SILK_TOUCH:1,DURABILITY:3), 40xSTONE:0, 1xIRON_PICKAXE:-12, 5xSTRING:0, 14xLOG:0, 64xSTONE:0, 1xSTONE_PICKAXE:7, 1xIRON_SWORD:40(DAMAGE_ALL:4,FIRE_ASPECT:2), 64xSTONE:0, 1xWRITTEN_BOOK:0, 14xIRON_BLOCK:0, 3xTORCH:0, 46xDIRT:0, 64xSTONE:0, 36xDIAMOND_ORE:0, 64xSTONE:0, 23xIRON_ORE:0, 64xSTONE:0, 18xGRAVEL:0, 64xSTONE:0, 7xCOAL_ORE:0, 64xSTONE:0, 14xGOLD_ORE:0, 6xSTONE:0, 1xLAPIS_ORE:0, 2xGRASS:0, 8xNETHER_BRICK:0, 8xICE:0, 7xSMOOTH_BRICK:0, 1xNETHER_BRICK_STAIRS:0, 3xIRON_FENCE:0 2013-08-17 13:34:54 | evert_dutch fell from a high place 2013-08-17 13:34:55 | CH: Running original command on player Skewer ----> /modlist 2013-08-17 13:34:59 | <evert_dutch> omg 2013-08-17 13:35:03 | <evert_dutch> fuck this server 2013-08-17 13:35:35 | <evert_dutch> omg i hate this :((( 2013-08-17 13:35:38 | <evert_dutch> FKFKFKFKF 2013-08-17 13:35:40 | evert_dutch lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-17 13:35:40 | §eevert_dutch left the game. 2013-08-17 13:35:43 | CH: Running original command on player Trooprm32 ----> /ban evert_dutch Grief of solid ore blocks on S 2013-08-17 13:35:43 | [MCBouncer] Trooprm32 banning evert_dutch - Grief of solid ore blocks on S nerd.nu/appeal 2013-08-17 13:35:43 | User evert_dutch has been banned by Trooprm32. (Grief of solid ore blocks on S nerd.nu/appeal) 2013-08-17 13:37:00 | Skewer lost connection: disconnect.quitting 2013-08-17 13:37:00 | §eSkewer left the game. 2013-08-17 14:29:41 | PunchMyTree has 6 notes. 2013-08-17 14:29:41 | PunchMyTree[/iP EXPUNGED:56300] logged in with entity id 947734 at ([world] 0.22293038445122396, 102.5, 7.9492643584407165) 2013-08-17 14:29:41 | [strikeDeath] PunchMyTree + K:D - Deaths: 66 Kills: 93 2013-08-17 14:31:01 | §ePunchMyTree left the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Although you were careful enough to not use the same IP for the xraying alts as your primary accounts, you inevitably established a connection by the need to exchange items between accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrloud15 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Closing, ban length has been set at 12 months. Please make a new appeal on Dec 08 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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