ultrahub

Vinhaven is going to be rushing our iron grinder as early as possible this rev, once we get it up we can throw tons of rails your way.

Hello again everyone. I would like to state that until an official decision can be made about the end and end grinders. I have taken it upon myself to open the Vin/Atlantis grinder to the public. If you find it blocked off again, let me know, I will open it again. If it is blocked, it is not my doing, as I cannot control the actions of the other people who have perms for the area. Now in my opinion, I think a definitive action should be taken. The "Don't be a dick" rule is too vague to cover this very specific topic. Being that the end is it's own realm, with it's own rules and such, I believe that a simple policy concerning the number of grinders and their access/use should be put in place. This is too much of a grey area, and such extremes such as altering the entire game play of the server are unneeded. A limit on grinders or a rule about their access can be easily enforced. These are just my thoughts, I shall patiently await your decision before taking any more actions. Have a pleasant day.

I concur with troop, a limit may be needed to avoid further hostilities and to satisfy the masses. I think this may remain an issue until some sort of rule or regulation is made to make this less of a grey area.

Hello everyone, I see this whole ordeal is causing a bit of a stir, enough so that I finally made a forum account I have so lazily been putting off. First off, PvtSnowball and Redigox do not represent Vinhaven as a whole, and appropriate steps have been taken to deal with these two. It saddens me that Vinhaven's reputation can be so easily soured by two twats. When Princessugly first approached me about this idea, I told him to talk to Redigox. I was busy with my own projects. Yes, I did supply the materials, but at the time I did not realize the scope of impact this would have. I am deeply sorry for all the trouble this may have caused you all. You can rest assured that in future revisions I, or Vinhaven for that matter, will not attempt something like this again. So whether you accept my humble apology or not, I am still doing my best to keep Vinhaven a friendly place. If you wish to cast blame on anyone, blame me, not my town, or those who weren't even involved. Most of our town doesn’t even have access to it, and at least half the town is unaware of the grinder's existence. So send me your hate mail, I won't mind. So good day Sirs and Madams, and have a pleasant time on PvE.