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EeHee2000

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  1. Spot on. I don't really have much to add to this other than that the 'toxic players' (myself included) and the staff that happen to disagree with them need to actually sort of take things into consideration when interpreting what their 'opposing' side says.

    We've really dug ourselves quite a large hole here, comparable to the size of the hole that Ubisoft dug themselves in 2014, but I think overall we can all agree that we'd like to sit down and play games without arguments.
    There really isn't a simple way to fix the divide between us, other than for both sides to start actually, y'know, listening to eachother; and now that the Survival server feels that (for the most part, at least) they have suitable admins, the process should become much easier over time.

    Now, to give a rundown of why Survival players were getting pissed off in the first place;
    Survival's population started to dwindle, because people got bored and moved on with life.  
    Survival got admins that didn't PvP or even regularly play on the server, let alone casually interact with its playerbase.
    Because of this, the SAdmins made some pretty bad choices over time, and Survival players noticed this - take into account that Survival players had been throwing suggestions at the admins non-stop for quite some time.
    Survival players start getting really quite pissed off, because there was a constant pattern of admins not listening to players and admins then fucking up.
    From there it just becomes a sour apple, with the situation degrading over time and with both sides refusing to reason with eachother.

    It's been getting progressively worse for about 2-1.5 years, with a fucktonne of faults to both sides.

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  2. Yeah, to add to what I said above, the team fights were the most fun. I think Diamond 1v1's would be much more fun to watch rather than Leather gear 1v1's, as well.
    The kitted FFA was actually really enjoyable, as biased as I might be about that.
    I personally prefer arenas where gear is supplied, it means that everyone can participate which just means a better time for all.

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  3. I will agree that, even though I have never saw instances of staff talking openly in mumble about bans or harassing people with mumble channel names and such, that I would agree that this behavior is absolutely not behavior that I want coming from staff members and urge you to bring this to the attention of an administrator if it happens in the future.

    As far as the part about consistency in how rule infractions are handled, this is the way it is all over the world with how public athority figures handle rule breakers. Everyone has a "use your best judgement" policy when it comes down to how certain rules are broken. For example... A cop sees you speeding. You are doing 7 miles an hour over the speed limit on the highway. He doesn't pull you over. 2 miles later, going the same 7 miles over the speed limit, you pass by another cop who does pull you over and gives you a verbal warning. You take back off again and pass by another cop while speeding who doesn't pull you over followed by a forth cop who actually gives you a ticket. These cops are totally independent of each others actions but you just got lucky and didn't hit the cop that was writing tickets until the forth cop. You could have, just as well, hit the ticket writing cop on the first stop. The ticket would have been justified at every stop since you were speeding, but it's up to the cop to if they want to write a ticket or not.

    Same thing with judges, if you show up to Court for an offence, the judge can set a wide variety of punishments, most offenses come with a minimum sentence (that is normally used in most cases) but there is also a maximum that could be inforced. This still is left up to the judges discression.

    Even in someone's job athority figures use different ways of thinking... you could have 3 different shift manager that might look at the same offense differently. One could fire you, one could give you a written warning, one could just verbally warn you.

    Now there are some more serious offenses that will earn you a ban as soon as they happen, like xraying. There's not going to be a warning in this case and it pretty much carries a 1 month ban (the exception is if this isn't your first xray ban)

    Other than those types of things, we value our staff's option to do what they feel is right when regarding people who break the rules. They think about whether it was an accident, what is deliberate but minor, was it done out of anger or retaliation, or if it was major and just done with rule breaking as the sole intention.

    This is what makes us unique and I support this was of rule inforcement.

    P.S. I wrote this on my phone so please excuse if something autocorrected poorly.

    I agree with what you're saying, but that doesn't mean that the rules shouldn't be more concise. There's plenty of room for improvement; I understand that some issues just can't have a clear outline of 'how2handle', but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't define rules past that point. 

    To simplify, the rules system needs a lot of spit and polish overall. 

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  4. There isn't really a very effective way to 'fix' the wiki per se, however it should be common practice to keep the Rules section updated, as it's one of the most important parts of the wiki overall. Every single little rule change and policy change needs to be reflected as soon as possible on the wiki. 
     

  5. I think the line should be drawn at the point where a player has both a similar name to - and the same skin as - a specific staff member. Otherwise I think using common sense and not banning people that can't help the fact that they have a similar username is the right way to go. There really isn't a definitive way to determine what the policy on this should be, as I'd expect each case would be very context-sensitive. 
    So yeah, it just comes down to the context and a little common sense. 

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  6. It's an issue other people thought of. I'm just repeating their thoughts. I don't see how spawn and exit matters.

     

    They won't read signs and books, we've covered that heavily before. They could get annoyed at slower mining when they go to it, as it is fundamental.

    They'll read anything that's convenient to read. If signs are placed in such a way it's impossible to ignore them at first glance, they'll read them and from there they can be directed to the rulebook - which, might I add, we need to start simplifying. 

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  7. It does depend on what the post actually contains though, no? I don't think all of these 'hit&run' posts are the same, some have brought up some very relevant issues with nerd.nu such as Tharine's and arguably, barneygales. 
    I don't think blacklisting those types of posts is a good idea, because the way nerd is administrated means that everything is very open to interpretation. (I don't mean that in an offensive way.)
    Had Tharine's leaving post been initially hidden fast enough to prevent anyone from seeing it, there would've been no outrage or demand to bring it back, whereas if that sort of thing were blacklisted/against the rules it would technically be completely justified to have censored it in the first place. 
    I'm going to go a bit against the flow here and say that the current way we handle these is fine. 
    We're removing things that go over the rails (twilexis' leaving post is an example) but things that can accomplish something (Tharine's post is the top dog here) should stay fully within the rule boundary. It's a slippery slope, because barneygale's post did have a lot of reasoning in it, but it was also considered to be rather offensive to a lot of people - that's where the admin team's interpretation of the post(s) in question come into play. 
    Summary: no, do not make a rule/policy surrounding this, it will serve to complicate the matter and at the moment it frankly isn't needed - nerd.nu isn't going to be obliterated by the next "fuck all you cunts" post, nor the one after that, or the one a dozen after that. Sure, keep hiding/archiving the angry 'fuck you' posts, but there's no need to actually ban the people that make the posts unless they break a rule. 

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  8. See, I'm not looking for an opinion on it, I'm looking to get my note removed. I don't think "no" is how a note appeal should be handled, especially considering that I've not repeated the heinous offence that I did to earn the note in the first place on any sort of basis.
    Telling me to stop making appeals is a bit silly when I asked you not to post on the thread in the first place, jchance - that same request from me stands here to both yourself and to Mrloud15.
    Let's not overdramatise a note from half a year ago and act like sensible humans for a bit.  
    Cheers.
     

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    The thing I was talking about in that post you quoted was a response to Magnus directly and frankly it fits d3 and eehee as well.

     

    EeHee, remove the thing about allahu akbar and being a twat also that is shit not funny or cute. I'm not on staff, I don't have power I'm just a person who wants to pretend he is interacting with mature adults. 

    Not sure why you're acting all shitty, I'm not trying to stir anything up in this thread. 

    For the record; I don't give a single fuck about your opinion on my signature - I'd request that you go fuck yourself if you think I'm at any obligation to change it. It's a tiny little piece of text and acting all triggered by it isn't what I'd call 'helpful'. 

     

     

    Then you have no reason to be on these forums. We don't need the input of people who don't participate in the nerd.nu community we are trying to rebuild here. Later man. 

    I'm pretty amused if you think this is going to get anything accomplished - telling people to go away isn't going to make them go away, it's going to make them angry at you and they'll most likely retaliate. 

    Don't stir the pot with your accusations of other people stirring the pot, you hypocrite. 

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  10. I agree with Sir_Walmsley - beating around the bush is something nerd does far too much in hindsight. 
    Whilst I'm not actually one of the people that 'left' in a fit of rage, I do believe that insulting people one final time is something that ought to be allowed to the point where it becomes harassment or plainly breaks a rule. 
    I know a lot of us here hold some pretty deep-set grudges against certain people, and in all fairness expressing those grudges could help nerd in some way. 

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