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I did not write the following work of art. All credits go to some bloke named Nullsquare. So-called 'toxic influence' here. You might remember me from incidents such as "He's from #avo get him out of here", "Nullsquare Christ: Cyberbully Superstar", "Headham Feud: Lude Edition", "Headham Feud 2: Electric Boogaloo", and "The Cat in the (MCBouncer) Hack". My forum account got locked and quite frankly, I don't care enough to actually work out how to unlock it. I don't play Mineraft anymore, nor do I talk to anybody on these servers excluding those who transitioned into real-life friends. I was sent this thread by three people on three separate occasions. One asked me to weigh in on it, one laughed while I explained in great detail exactly what process I wished I could take to cut the wires supplying electricity and telephone to tobylane's house, and the final one just kinda circlejerked about 'autism' or something for a little while. Firstly, I'd like to address DarkElmo. I know who you are and the alias by which you used to go by. Let it be publicly known that it was me who verbally attacked you several times in Mumble. The justification was your blatant, disgusting, and patently immature sexism that ran rampant through the majority of things you said. While you may have taken offence (and honestly, I hope you did), I was privately thanked by several other occupants of the channels. Two of them were, at the time, volunteer staff of the community. While I didn't make comments pertaining to age (too low-hanging of a fruit for me), I'm sure it came up in other conversations where you demonstrated yourself incapable of handling a mature conversation. If you want pointers on that, contact cmdrtebok. He seems to be the single level-headed individual within the entirety of the nerd.nu community, staff and players alike. Your poppycock about the "old times" of nerd.nu is not only completely incorrect and tainted with false nostalgia, but amusingly ironic. If nerd.nu of old was like that, you'd have found yourself banned a long time ago for your immature, unprovoked, baseless personal attacks. --- I feel I should weigh in on this subject for two reasons: a) I've been on both sides of the metaphorical fence; and b) I no longer hold the nerd.nu community, or any of its members, as near and dear to me. Consequently, I can be objectively critical. A thing that is toxic, by definition, is a thing that - when ingested - causes illness or death. It's also synonymous with poisonous; something extremely unpleasant or malicious. I'm going to run with that definition, based on the assumption that the staff and players actively assume that these "collusions" are created characterised by malice, and intending to do harm to the community. NEWSFLASH: Amateur Armchair Psychologist Discovers You're Pretty Wrong I started playing on the servers in 2010, five years ago. My tenure on the servers is older than that of any currently serving administrator excluding probably Deaygo. I actually see it the other way around. What has manifested over the last few years is an 'us-versus-them' mentality within the staff. This started with a small subset of the staff with the major JohnAdams1735 incident of 2013, but has metastasised across the majority of the staff base. Any who have managed to remain untainted by this view have been blocked from any form of staff-promotion (e.g., TornadoHorse for survival admin, an objectively better choice than some) and had any suggestions that they produce or champion absorbed into metaphorical memory holes. I'd like to reiterate that for the most part, it's an 'us-versus-them' mentality between the staff and a portion of players, the majority of which are survival-major players. There's a small subset of this group that plays creative as well. I submit that the regular players that abide by the mentality are mostly just parroting what they've heard from those in positions of authority, whether for some strange hope of becoming a moderator, not having an authority figure in their life until now, or for fear of getting banned by association. Considering 80% of all conversation by these players is harmless banter in Mumble and game, I'm not really sure why there's any fear. These people want two things that a lot of staff members appear to find uncomfortable. They want a say - they want some weight to their suggestions, and they want some change. The playerbase is an order of magnitude larger than the staff base. Not only are some of them guaranteed (by sheer statistics) to be better at public relations, programming, and event organising, but some are also guaranteed to have better ideas. Dismissing ideas left and right because of the trail it came from is a terrible, terrible approach to moderation. Your method of silently dismissing ideas if they don't fit your perfect plan was something I attacked a long time ago when ludeman84 was a head admin. If you explain, in detail, your reasons why not, a compromise could be made and it may end up even better than the original idea. --- P.S. Magnyus, if your signature is an 'inside joke', keep it as an inside joke. Putting it on a public forum turns it, in this case, from an inside joke to making you look like a 3edgy5me moronic manchild. Same goes for Eehee (who probably posted this for me) and your location listing. P.P.S. tobylane, you've made, at the time of writing, 262 posts on the nerd.nu forums. You've talked a lot but in the contents of these posts you have managed to actually say nothing. I'm sure you know the old adage "a wise man speaks because he has something to say, an idiot speaks because he has to say something."

- Removed, double post

I agree with you on that, but temp bans would be more conventional for smaller issues, such as crop grief or isolated incidents of PvP logging.

(Sorry, can't quote from the device I'm using) >If you follow the rules you won't be seen in the ban appeals section. It's quite simple. I kinda have to disagree with you here; there's absolutely no way that staff justly ban people 100% of the time. People have been banned for doing nothing in particular, for example; Segadude20000 was once banned simply for being present in a particular incident where a few people were breaking a rule that only came into existence after said incident. Sega was actually AFK when he got banned, might I add. There were about 6 people in the area and the only people banned were myself and Sega, (the ban on me was justified) however two other people were doing the thing I was banned for.

The topic of temp bans has been brought up before, but there's never been a definitive course of action about them. I for one think that temp bans need to start being used; banning a brand new player for minor crop grief really isn't going to make them want to come back. Going onto some forum to make an account to create a post about why you're innocent or why you aren't isn't necessary at all, if all you did was break of a couple blocks of Glowstone from some dude's house or something of the like. Temp bans could also be quite useful for shutting up disruptive players. I for one, if kicked for being a disturbance, will likely come back and argue with whoever kicked me, that's just who I am. However, a temp ban would allow me to take a step back to prevent myself from actually getting a proper ban. Let me note that this doesn't just apply to me, either. Also, we have temp bans on the forums, why not in-game?

cna u stop haras me nwo???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Irrelevant, churches are a cross between the two, not one or the other. There's no need for correction here, I'm certain you know what he was getting at. There really isn't a strict guideline that can be used to determine what judgement should be used, as you cannot determine a players intentions; only their actions. I think the current way we handle the matter is fine, but we need to dial it back a few notches on how we react when 'gay' is mentioned, because the main problem people appear to be having with it is that it's being enforced too strictly, to the point where it only serves to complicate matters rather than resolve them.

Likely 420scoper once I've edited the profile nice and clean.

AYY, CS:GO

jahcnace sux

Overall it's been run pretty damn nicely, but listing exactly what event it is that we're entering before you display the word to type for entry would be nice, for consistency. I'd also like to see the kits being varied up, and if that's a no-no it'd be really great to see Instant Health 2 splashes rather than Instant Health 1 drinking potions, just to add to the combat.

I'll likely be taking a look at this, looks baller from that footage.

If I felt that I'd get nowhere with what I was doing I wouldn't have bothered to talk to the Heads in the first place, don'tcha think?

Not so much the fact that we're being called toxic (most of us couldn't give a shit about being called names) but rather the fact that it means that our opinions are far less valid than the average user's, and that by some strange superstition we're always considered to be "trolling". I wouldn't say that we act that way at all either, me writing this exact post is evidence of that.

Yeah, it's pretty fucking irritating to bring up a suggestion to a Head Admin and have them be on the defensive about it from the get-go and try to think of ways I could be incorrect rather than consider what I say without a bias. About four times in a row I've been ignored by Head Admins because of this and it's pretty fucking irritating to have someone in the highest position of power just completely refuse to listen to what you have to say.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I wouldn't say it's to get a negative reaction from people. Some people find it funny whereas others go as far as to alert staff that it offends them. Realistically anyone who takes a signature like mine seriously and/or determines to any degree how mature people are from such a small thing probably wouldn't agree with me on many things, judging from past examples; just wanted to put that out there.

Yeah, Speccy, it's pretty great.

ayy lmao

They'd be pretty fucking baller for decorating bases with on Survival and PvE, and they'd just be all around great for décor on Creative. I beg for these.

be careful what you wish for lad :^)

Jchance, I expect you to disregard this as I'm one of those 10 'toxic' players you refer to. That's fine. The fact of the matter is that the way people are determined to be 'toxic' here is by word of mouth, and it's served to split people apart very efficiently, to the point where players are expecting Head Admins to disregard what they say. Would you not agree that there's something wrong with that? The amount of arguing that happens on these forums about every single little tidbit out of place is immense, and we're all guilty of it, toxic and non-toxic alike. I think we've associated the word 'toxic' with a very specific group of players, without much regard for as to whether those players are trying to be toxic; it seems like it's implied that everyone who is toxic is a troll and troublemaker, which is certainly not the case. Instead of treating those who you view as toxic to be nothing but a bunch of circlejerking twits trying to ruin nerd.nu, start actually considering what we say. Yes, I know that's going to be difficult, but I believe in you. Another problem I'm finding is that once people determine you to be toxic, every single thing you say from then on is irrelevant or an attempt to cause trouble; leaving no chance for redemption of any sort, which is rather fucking irritating. Irritating enough, might I add, that myself and others have even gotten alts in the past to try and start fresh. I have to watch my wording very fucking carefully to ensure that people such as tobylane and twilexis don't further transform my words into the most offensive things possible, I can't bring up any ideas/suggestions/issues to Head Admins because they believe I'm a troll, and the only reason I wasn't fucking censored to the favour of someone that really fucking dislikes me yesterday is due to the most recent SAdmin username.

It isn't necessarily something that's widespread; for example, buzzie71 is handling the appeal of ASHtheBass quite nicely, but in other ban appeals staff have given underhanded and sarcastic responses, with it becoming something of a pattern for certain staff. Also, just as a side note, I feel as if this thread is about to go into 'off-topic' territory, and that's fine. This is obviously a matter linked to many of the other problems nerd has and I wouldn't assume we can get very far whilst staying on-topic; so far it feels as if we've made no progress at all, as it's been tobylane and I bickering with eachother for half a page.

So you're saying that whatever an admin deems to be correct is correct regardless of possible biases? Thanks, tobylane. For the last fucking time, the username 'oi_dickhead' is not skirting the rules. I don't give a shit if you think otherwise, your opinion on the matter is as devoid as you regard everything I say, with good reason.

In the bold/underlined text, you're essentially saying that I should no longer say the word 'dickhead' as an admin removed my post that retorted to twilexis' in the thread before this one, yes? I wouldn't necessarily say that my words are working against me either, it's just that due to me being who I am, people go to painstaking lengths to draw out the smallest little nitpickings that they deem incorrect or offensive. For the most part the rest of your post actually makes sense, which is nice to see.

No, I'm not wanting there to be a rule against that, I'm wanting people to not take stabs at the smallest little incidents and go out of their way to take offense to anything and everything I say and do. People need to get thicker skin if the username 'oi_dickheads' is something that frightens and scares them; them not having said thick skin is not my issue, and it should not be treated as such. I won't bother to respond to you anymore as your wording implies that should I disagree with you I'm automatically deemed incorrect, which is childish at best. You answered none of my above questions, funnily enough.