Forever_A_Steve

So if that happens again, you would be cool with it?

Just a snippit from totemo (who does the x-ray enforcement) along with permalink for proof https://www.reddit.com/r/mcpublic/comments/3w8q68/seeking_feedback_ban_durations/cxv8hz0

^ this guy gets it

Theres no way of doing so, which is why the 2 tier system is best. Slap on the wrist and then harsher ban.

Nononono. A 4 week ban for someone new is overkill. It doesn't mean a 4 week vacation. It means they are never coming back. Is that what you really want? Players who arent given the chance to learn their lesson and a bad rep?

Your Mistakes Don't Define You, They Teach You. And general description would be anyone but 2nd or 3rd time offenders. First timers deserve better.

Thats an unfortunate consequence of a ban, and ultimately the point of a ban. It's for the offender to do their time. In many cases, others can rely on what the banned have built. Like in our case, we had full farms, 100% functional grinders, villager breeders, and our whole driving force taken away from us. If shwk was banned, thats fine. We'll just have to take over and do work with what we have. Shwk and his creations was Clearmont's strongest pillar, and that collapsed under us. This isn't a case of "just one example" because using this example, we can prevent other things like this happening and improve our rules. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

More common examples? The newbies who do it, get overly severely punished, and never come back (or quit the server once they see their edits have been rolledback) We want policies that encourage newer players to stay and have fun, not have policies that will turn them away from the server. Barely anyone new reads the rules.

We had no idea. It was more of a "wait...what?" thing. Then we traveled to the area and ragequit after seeing what had happened. But rounding up 15 or so villagers running around in the open in a griefed area wasn't fun. Nor was rescuing some from ontop of trees.

It makes sense except for when it screws others over. but when HALF OF YOUR CITY THAT HAPPENS TO HOLD A CARDINAL PORTAL DISSAPEARS AND IS GRIEFED BY ADMINS happens, then your "fair" policy has failed. Using your logic, it is easier, so it takes less time and effort. The same thing can be done with more time and effort. So why not just ban and take all valuables away? Your rollback policy does more damage than good and thats why it needs to be changed. Structures built are not ill-gotten gains. Yes, it takes less time for them, but thats why you ban them. not mercilessly go in and destroy it. Whether you have sympathy or not is fine, and it may be their fault for x-raying. But having other players getting screwed over through the actions of admins is not their fault. it's YOUR FAULT. I and many others are victims of this barbaric policy when we haven't done anything wrong.

But it should not be excessive to the majority of players. Theres a difference between punishing and turning away from the server.

2 week max ban (1 week if they are nice about it) with all valuables taken away for first time x-ray infractions. No nuking from orbit!!!

is it that room with the buttons? i forgot that was last rev

https://nerd.nu/forums/topic/3870-gamepro2204-totemo/?p=31237 he got a 1 month insta-ban and even admitted to it. Even he said that he thinks it's too steep for what it is, and considering how trivial it can be, I agree with him. $5 says he won't ever come back to play for more than 2 hours. (if any, at all)

I however can agree that the grief bans should vary. But with what switch said, 30k block grief should result in a perma ban. I agree more with Switch on the x-ray issue because over half of clearmont and it's main driving force went poof because of shwk's unnessecary punishment. (Did I mention that this has also driven him to quit playing?) We lost everything and had to do so many things all over again. Trying to contain free roaming villagers in half assed deformed trees and holes everywhere was not fun. Now it's just nerd and I, and we are finally turning the place around. But we lost out in being a popular place this rev because of the policies. (any development you see in these pictures was done after getting nuked into oblivion.)

the rules are fine. What needs to be done is a punishment/ban re-work. Plenty of threads where new players get banned that ends with a "Even though I read and understand the rules, but thats still kinda harsh." The point is to be forgiving and welcoming to new players. Not to drive them out with bans. And honestly, judging by the bans on mc bouncer found here https://mcbouncer.com/userbans Griefing is the biggest problem, yet it doesn't carry a harsh punishment of 1 month + having all of your builds nuked from orbit like a trivial thing such as x-ray. X-ray being reworked to a 1-2 week ban and having all of your valuables taken away is more reasonable. You want people to think about what they have done, not despise the server and resent the staff. Mod team does a good job. but policy changes can be used.

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I've just assumed that nothing here on the server is confidential and can be looked up at any time. ...pretty sure this was common sense

As of now, the course is closed to make it deadlier for renovations. It will be harder and have more obstacles next time around. The prize for next time will be an "X" enchanted item!

Congrats to Deldelda on being the first to complete the course! Some one of a kind items will be future prizes for the course! (Each time, a new obstacle will be added)

just a reminder that it's now open. 20 diamonds wait for you at the end

http://imgur.com/a/YHsRe This is meant to challenge contenders with something more than parkour. Lots of deathly scenarios and even more room for error. Will you survive? First to complete the course and make it in the winners room will win 20 diamonds.

Mod powers are limited and tasks like that are up to admins. But you also gotta know that logs only go back so far. Like if grief happened so long ago, they really can't see who did it. (Like what happened with my farm) Being rude about it kinda makes their moderation jobs shittier for them.

My character is making a run for freedom out of the picture box! Also some hacker gave me 3 stacks of control blocks on C out of nowhere. (Yes.... I made admin team aware. why I still have access to them, I don't know)