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The current revision of Creative has been going on for around 5 months, more than double than the revision length we're aiming for. It's actually fairly close to the length that last revision went for, and as we know that wasn't a good thing. It's been said a lot that the current revision is getting boring and dreary, so I figured I'd ask. Will we be cranking the gears for a new revision soon? Just to kickstart this, I thought I'd add in some pointers just-in-case a new revision is already in development. Interesting, diverse map. Yes, this revisions' map was pretty sweet to begin with. For the first two months or so players absolutely loved it, as there were some pretty cool biomes, it was a relatively open map, there were some pretty massive mountains around the place, a long river running through a distance of the map, and the lake dotted with islands. However, it was too plain. Flying around, we see the same block again, again and again. Grass. Grass. Grass. Sand. Sand. Sand. You get the point. We need a living, vibrant world. Perhaps this revision we could go a little insane and add some volcanoes, some large forests, have the End world tweaked to allow for an all around eye-tease. Rivers running down mountains and through clearings in musty forests, eventually leading to the ocean. Cliffs that overhang vast swamps dotted with ponds and creeks. Again, you get the idea. A truly exceptional world with a vast array of landpoints is what we need. Some natural-looking landmarks might be nice, too. Such as a gigantic tree somewhere. Active development. Last revision in particular and this revision didn't see much engaged development and furthering of Creative. By this, I mean that things stayed mainly the same and not much changed despite the Creative servers' best cries. I understand that we just got a bunch of new toys to play with, and I'm pleased with that. What I don't want is for that to have been a one time thing. I, along with essentially the entire Creative server would support further movement to restoring Creative to a certain standard of incredible as it once was. Moderation. Ladies and gentlemen, it's our favorite discussion on Creative. The moderating status of the server! To start with this, we now have a passable staff team on Creative. nickeox, Diamond_Lover123, NEVAstop, WayneByNumbers, LetsBeFehr, Dumbo52 and marting11 are names that come to mind. Yes, we just got a couple new staff members, which is brilliant and was very well taken by the Creative community. WayneByNumbers and NEVAstop have been more active as of late, and the CAdmins are making some smart moves after being firmly poked with many sticks. But hey, why stop there? Whilst there isn't exactly a massive palette of suitable players on Creative, there are still capable players around the place. As we've finally got some traffic coming to Creative, we should be looking out for potential staff members more than ever. Okay, that's all I've got for now. Thoughts?

It seems the /i command has quit working on C, making blocks such as 43(double slab) or 62(burning furnace) unobtainable. When trying to use the command(for any block), this message is displayed: InvalidProcedureException: Unknown procedure "_parseargs" <<main code>>:give.msa:5

[Creative] holy shirt i finally did it! :3

Tonight it was brought to my attention by Eehee2000 that the "/give" command is still accessible to not only moderators, but also to common players. He informed me that earlier today someone was spawning items into his inventory. He got curious and looked into just what they did to access the command because if you type "/give" you get an error, however if you type the FULL syntax "/give [username] [item id] [quantity] " it does not give the error and instead works entirely as the command would be expected. I was around the last time this command was allowed, back during rev 12, it was a mess for players especially during the times of item spawning flightless creative. I'd also like to make note that about 3 months back, a hacker mass used this command on me, they were banned, however it tells me that the command indeed existed in a client mod, and clearly could be the next means of attacking the server and disgruntling players on the server. I suggest that we fix the problems associated with the command before things turn ugly. I did not post it in the technical problems section to avoid abuse. If need be, please check the logs to see who initially did this to Eehee, as he cannot remember their username.

Cool builds everyone, cool builds :)

Some awesome builds and good times for the third night of speed build. Here's to the next one. EDIT~ images are now fixed, back to full size.

Hey I don't have a lot of time right now, but I just wanted to bring this to the tech's attention. Basically if you choose a colored stained glass block on creative(e.g. green, purple, blue), It will inevitably turn white. Times vary, but it always ends up turning to a white stained glass block. That's pretty much all I know about it. I'll be doing a little testing and post more later, but that's all for now. Thanks, GetaFever

It was really nice to see so much people on c.nerd for speed build. Definitely getting online for tomorow's.

This is something that I plan on turning into a /warp. Some of you probably don't care, but I feel the need to post it anyways. [This is on the creative server by the way]

I'm in the middle of a project were i'm digging out a large square that I protected. Although due to me being a clumsy oaf, I tp'ed away without setting home. So if anyone stumbles upon a big blue square with part of the inside dug out, please let me know. Thanks! EDIT~ No longer need anyone to search, dumbo found it :3

I will be hosting a full week of nightly (Edit: 9pm Central) Speed Building Contests from January 25th - January 31st on c.nerd.nu. There will be at least 3 rounds each night that will take place in the official Creative Speed Build Arena. The prize is that the winning builds will be featured in a "trophy room" (until someone donates something else). I am accepting ideas for the topics for each round, please post your ideas for my consideration in the comments below! Edit: The final Theme on Friday will be "Redstone".

In response to https://nerd.nu/forum/index.php?/topic/1524-creative-the-current-state/ , I think we are in need of some changes on creative. Here are some things, that with the other C admins approval, I would like to go ahead with as soon as possible on C. A true survival mode when using /mode, including damage by fall/fire. Allow arrows to be used. Expand the current map, and target a mid-march revision change. Have the use of /wand to measure things (I'm not that familiar with wand and it's capabilities, so if there is more that could be dangerous let me know) Allow players to put blocks on their heads allow potions to be used (except invisibility) Allow block placement of TNT by everyone (so it's aesthetic and doesn't explode like now) Allow the placement of beacons by everyone Obviously much of this isn't vanilla, but the community has spoken and I don't see how any of these could harm our current small playerbase. Let me know what you guys think.

Alright, first off, Creative is in a terrible state. You mightn't agree with this, and I'm fine with that. However you mightn't know all the facts. Here's a general summing up: Creative is considered the "old horse" of the community. We average about 5 or so players online at a time, and on a good day we can reach around 15 or so. We have zero active, dedicated moderators able to attend to Creative. With the banning of ROCKONN, a mod who's spent over 350 hours online this revision, there aren't any more frequently active, focused moderators able to attend to Creative. Sure, we have admins, such as Buzzinbee and LetsBeFehr, but they aren't always on, either. Perhaps with the low player count, there aren't all that many modreqs to do, and I agree with that. However that should change. The Creative server shouldn't be so devoid of players that there aren't even any modreqs to do. Going further into the moderators issue, I'd like to raise a few points. I was told with confidence that the Creative server would get a small amount of mods, maybe 3 or so, by 3 admins, one whom is also pushing for the development and revival of Creative. Two Creative players were put into the voting thread, and I'm perfectly okay with that. What I'm not okay with is the fact that they are the two lowest voted players, despite one of them being a veteran of the servers, and the other having spent a whopping 370+ hours on this revision alone, holding first place for usage stats. It's been raised so, so many times by many people that Creative needs new mods over the past year, yet even a player such as Magnyus, who's now left the servers, couldn't get it. It's impossible for a C player to get mod. Not to attack PvE in any way, but to rather state an obvious truth, PvE has most of the power over who does and doesn't get moderator. PvE usually has in the least 3 moderators online, which would be at about 3AM EST. During the day, they'd usually have about 10~ moderators online at some point, correct me if I'm wrong. With this taken into account, none of the PvE players come onto Creative except to plan town builds. No socialisation is done between the two servers. The contrast just completely rips apart the "community" sense of nerd, because of the huge differences between them. Here's a memory jogger: Remember the 3M meetings? A lot of people attended that, to our surprise. Run by Magnyus and Nickeox, with NEVAstop and myself running the secondary meetings, it proved to be filled with thoughtful, well spoken conversation. Dozens of suggestions were raised and none were dismissed. It was formal, it went perfectly. Now, tell me two things that came from those meetings. Fun fact: Nothing ever came from them. Nothing at all. If you think there's a reason to disagree with me on that, go ahead. But first, please listen to the recordings. Please don't argue if you just disagree for no reason, because the evidence here is overwhelming. All we can really do for Creative is watch it die, as much as I'd love to think otherwise. PvE mods will always vote for PvE mods, whom shall vote for more unnessecary PvE mods. Will Creative get a share? No. It hasn't, and after this modvote it likely never will. Because it's dying. I know there are certain admins pushing hard for Creative's revival, and I really sincerely appreciate that. But nothing ever comes from it. It's just ridiculous, and certain admins can't bring themselves to do anything about it. Why? Because they couldn't care less. That's the honest answer. Survival also needed mods quite badly, so they got their batch of mods last vote. If Creative needed them badly back then but didn't get any, how badly do we need them now? Very badly. Do we get any mods? Nope. PvE and Survival do. Let me know what you guys think. EDIT: Just to mention, I could ramble on all day and night about this. The list goes on, and on, and on. And on. I want this to be a discussion toward developing Creative and finally pulling it out of limbo, not PvE players arguing with me for no reason. If you take offence to what I've said, go ahead.

SpeedBuilding on Creative! What? Last year we had a speed building craze on C that was extremely popular, and I think it's time for it to make a return! Speedbuilding is a game in which players are presented with a topic and only have a certain amount of time to build something. In our case, this even will have 4 rounds of 10 minutes each. Each round, I will announce a theme, and you will have 10 minutes to build the best thing you can within your plot, myself and a panel of judges will then choose a top three and we will move on to the next round! This sounds fun! When is it? This event will be this Saturday, January 11 at 2PM EST! It will be held at /warp arena on C.nerd.nu! If you aren't on the best coast (East Coast), you can use this converter to find when this event is! http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SpeedBuilding%21&iso=20140111T14&p1=179 But wait, do I win anything? Glad you asked! While it's hard to give too many awards on C, the winner of each round will have his build immortalized at the C arena! The Top 3 of each round will be posted on a large permanent sign at the stadium as well. You also gain the satisfaction of being a better builder than all 27 other people and have bragging rights. Sweet sounds fun I'll be there! Anything else I should know? There are 28 plots available, and they are on a first come first served basis. I won't reserve plots so arrive a little early! Also, there are 28 plots, and if we have more than 28 people, some people may have to cycle through each round! If this event is popular enough, we can do more than 4 rounds and have more fun! Looking forward to seeing you all there!! -LetsBFehr

I'm considering volunteering my time to run a regularly scheduled 10-minute build contest league on C. How frequent it happens will depend a lot on how much prep work is required to run it. With WE copy and paste commands I could set it up 4 arenas to run in 15 minutes before the contest starts, without it I'm looking at possibly an hour or two of setup. The difference between these is running it weekly vs. bi-monthly for the time I'm willing to put in. Normally WE is Admin only, is there anyway we could modify our policy for moderators running events?

I'm not saying that we're ready to commit the time to running a weekly 10-minute Build Contest League, but if I were considering it, what time during the week would be best for each of you? (Check all that apply.) Right now I'm considering running a 1 hour contest up to once a week. During the week players can suggest topics, and the topics will be selected by the hosting moderator (for simplicity). There will be 10 minutes for each build with 5 minutes for judging. Let me know if you think there are any critical problems with these general details.

I remember the old days of C.nerd.nu...every day brought new players, new builds, and new conversation. That was a long time ago...These last few revs have only had 15 people at the most in the days after the rev begins. I wish to get it back into its glory days of 80+ people who would actually stick around for most of the rev, and I think most people on C would like that too. I'm sick of people coming on for 3 days then leaving. I want to create a player base, have new people, and fresh faces every day just like the old days when I first joined. So ladies and gentleman, how are we going to go about this? Discuss....

We need to start to think about planning this :) --- I suggested for the current revision to expand its borders from 5000x5000 to 6000x6000 somewhere around mid-january. Dumbo and Buzzin seemed to agree about this. --- I thought the idea of making Revision 26 a short test revision with flight turned off was just an idea thrown in a meeting, but I learned today that this is apparently the actual plan. The idea is to also test a couple of suggestions for the creative server (the only example buzzin told me was enabling ender pearls) on the span of a month or so on a new revision. So I want to say that I completely disagree with this whole idea. All the current CAdmins were around when flight was disabled on C. I know it was fun and I know some of you are nostalgic. Flight was disabled because it wasn't part of the actual game; we always made the effort to stay as close to the vanilla game as possible. Flight is now in the vanilla creative mode and is now an essential part of the game. It is incredibly useful to build things, which is the point of the Creative server. Sure, this idea may bring back some people for a short period of time for the nostalgia of it. But I doubt it would last long. We need to think more about the future players, not the past ones. Think about the new minecraft player, who played Creative in singleplayer and is now accustomed to flying being the norm. He would come on here and have to play like this is 2011. I doubt this will attract a lot of new players... An other problem with a test revision is if people know it's a test rev, large scale projects won't happen, and some people wouldn't bother building knowing the revision will be short. If we are going to test this, in order to have an actual relevant comparison between flight and no flight, we should have a quarter or half of the next (normal lenght) revision in a no-flight zone. This way we could compare how people behave in the two zones. Just put a wall between the zones to avoid people dropping from the sky when they enter the no-flight zone. --- Ideas for a "normal" revision 26 Map : 1.7 map generated will the large biomes option, with worldpainted areas for pixelart & bigtown and for spawn and others if needed. Have a large part of the map be plains, since most of the people build in this biome. Not too much forests but more than the current one. Spawn : Keep most of it overground. Spawn city : If you don't mind, I'd like to be in charge of the design of the next spawn city. It would have a more realistic layout than the current one. Something like http://redditpublic.com/wiki/Bellevue CTA : Do not prebuild a CTA station. It goes against the idea that it's a community project. CTA could have a reserved plot in spawn city but should not be in the actual spawn. Pixelart : Keep it at bedrock, that was a good idea. Other than that this warp seems in good shape this rev. BigTown : Could be at bedrock too but does not have to. Have a couple statues prebuilt. Some kind of "tutorial" statues with the dimensions of the parts of a skin on it. Redstone : If MasterCommaThe still wants to do this I have no problem.

After the 1.7 update I've noticed that when joining the server with mail in my inbox (new or not) i get sent the green text "You have mail! Type '/mail inbox' to see" twice. This isn't a game breaking error, but I figured i'd post it anyways.

I tag this creative, because I feel it's a bigger problem on C where the previous revision carto's are generally viewed most often. But anyway, the point I am making.... Many of the previous revision cartographs featured on the wiki were not actually from the most recent snap of the respective revision. This isn't exclusive to just the previous rev (rev 24) but 23, 22, and i'm told 21 as well. With rev 24 and 23 I noticed 2 problems, not only were they each approximately a month or more behind the date the final carto should have been taken, but they are also sized to match when the revision first started(before the space expansions). This is noticeable if you attempt to view marting11's highway in rev 24, or miniempire in rev 23. While it's not necessarily logical to startup a whole server just to take another cartograph picture, I think it might be ideal to use the opportunity we would have when we get our 4th server for testing survival mode creative, to simply load the old maps for a short time, and grab accurate cartograph images. Thanks Nickeox

I'm not aware of any specific reason players aren't allowed to use a compass on C. So why not let them have it if they want? The reason is either some tech stuff I'm unaware of, or more likely that it is a holdover from the old days when players weren't even allowed to fly. I can see there might be some arguments against this as it would prevent players from being able to make private structures, but to that I have to ask why those people are playing on a public server?

Dome1735 is the 7th of the ongoing Dome projects on the creative server, this time myself, Nolanater5711 and Dumbo52 have decided to take over as the leaders for this Dome. Dome6 was run by JohnAdams1735 who sadly passed away recently, so wanted to take over and make this one as close to a year after as possible. The Dome is going to have a 300 block diameter and will be dug down to bedrock, the Dome itself will be built when the digging is over. If we can get as many people to help as possible we can get it done before the end of the rev. So let's get digging! DIGGING: All the details for what needs to be dug where and the best way to do so is at /warp dome1735 on the notice boards on C.

To help organize the Redstone Towers players are asked to place their builds within certain categories. Every so often (i.e. every day) players place builds in the wrong categories (e.g. a basic piston door in the AND Gate category ). I would like to ask moderators protecting builds within the Redstone Towers to ensure builds are in their appropriate categories prior to protecting them. If you encounter a non-compliant build please either contact the player and ask them to move their build to the appropriate category, or feel free to /mail me and I will take care of the move request. Thank you!

Make a selection and run /region-intersects. It will give you a list of all the other regions, (and their owners) that intersect the selection. An example use case would be when creating a large town protection, to check for regions owned by non town members. Limitations: Poly regions are not supported. Cuboid is always assumed. CommandHelper or possibly WorldGuard remember the most recently selected corners even after //desel, so this command will probably always think there is some kind of selection.

The aim of this is to group ideas into 1 thread thus making it easier for us to note down what the community wants, also to allow users to upvote ideas in one location to help prioritise them and also to allow the users to see that we are listening to their input. So post any ideas you have for creative into this thread, you may pm me on the forums if you don't want to make a public post. Ideas brought up in here shall be discussed with the other CAdmins and then depending on the topic moved over to the archives to allow players to see the outcomes of the discussions. I know this is primarily creative based however if you would like to add in input for any other aspects of the server that could do with changing/removing/improving then feel free to put it down.here. Please keep suggestions serious and I will review them and hopefully we can improve our community as a whole from this. :)