vxwkillerjthewalrus Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Nerd shall go lite Tekkit Lite that is! Dear: Server Developers / The nerd community I think it is safe to say that the nerd community should grow higher then just regular Minecraft classic, due to regular Minecraft you can achieve all the achievements and build a proper house in under a week but in Tekkit Lite it takes over months too achieve the greatest empire on a Tekkit Lite server. For Example: .You can create a OS For ComputerCraft. .You can make a CC Butler. .You can create a power plant. .An automatic farm. .An official smart House with CC. .A ComputerCraft shop. .A Telporter link to parts of the world. .Impress your friends with your RedPower skills. .Create a CC Email System. .Create a Public/Private ME Storage system. And much much more the expectations of this pack is way more beyond then regular Minecraft You may even learn something and may even gain a couple of new Reddit nerds on the way We will never know unless you the nerd community vote yes for NERD GOES LITE! P.S All bugs are aware and fixable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooprm32 Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Probably the reason why we don't get into this is; it is very resource intensive. Another thing is, I remember Thrawn saying that we don't have enough staff who are well versed in these TECH mod packs, to be able to control the server correctly. (paraphrased by memory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vxwkillerjthewalrus Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Reply too: TrooPrm32 I do understand that it is very resource intensive but i know a server that hosts a Tekkit lite server with only 4GB of ram and 1GB bandwidth on a server box that is hosting a Hexxit server a FTB server and not lag at all im pretty sure we can optifine the ServerSide Pack and staff it is not that hard to learn this stuff even though i can not be staff i can easily show them how to handle the server and trust me the server bassically runs on its own! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I voted yes for Nerd goes Lite did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c45y Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Ram is not the issue, we are cpu bound. Tekkit is cpu intensive, partly because of all the cool things you talk about ( that would have to be disabled due to the ability to blow holes in the map hundreds of blocks wide ) Lets get the 3 we have working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vxwkillerjthewalrus Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Reply:C45y Yes i do know that ram is not the issue but im pretty sure that old girl of a cpu can handle one more and I know how too make it where we dont have too disable the whole pack we just only have too disable that Block or Item id and i know how too disable explosions for many things and make it where quarrys cant be landmarked too far or only a certain rank can use landmarks this is all possible but we will never know unless if you vote yes for nerd goes lite! :D P.S dont think about the negative think about the positive ;3 P.S Well i kinda know a way im not sure will it even work Edited June 25, 2013 by vxwkillerjthewalrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denevien Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Reply:C45y Yes i do know that ram is not the issue but im pretty sure that old girl of a cpu can handle one more and I know how too make it where we dont have too disable the whole pack we just only have too disable that Block or Item id and i know how too disable explosions for many things and make it where quarrys cant be landmarked too far or only a certain rank can use landmarks this is all possible but we will never know unless if you vote yes for nerd goes lite! :D P.S dont think about the negative think about the positive ;3 P.S Well i kinda know a way im not sure will it even work As C45Y said, we're more interested in getting what we have working right. Also per the quote, we are not a server that will have ranks, so anyone will have access to all features of a FTB/Tekkit server even if it is their first time joining. Servers like this have been discussed many times including recently, but it is just not feasible right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROCKODUCK Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Haha I'm sorry, I'm reading how tekkit can be run lightly and still laughing. There is a reason they call it the CPU eater of JAR's. I'll just give my example of running it on a server with 4 gig RAM and unlimited broadband but still could not hold it. It's just too much unless you have a specific server setup for it. Also there would go half our fan base because it's no longer vanilla. I think we are fine as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vxwkillerjthewalrus Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Reply:CrockODuck Please read my reply troorpm about a Gaming Community called NTG that made a server run on a box that had 32gb but only dedicated only 4 too the server while running 3 other servers A Teamspeak3(1-10 Players a day) A Hexxit(20-70 Players a day) FTB(1-10Players a day) TekkitLite(20-60Players a day) Please do not ask for the IPS they will not be posted. P.S The NTG box runs on i7, what does nerds server box run on? cause then i can understand a bit more why we should stay with vanilla Yeah it does sound like i dont know what im talking about but i do it's just that no one told me the specs of the serverBox Nerd has. Edited June 25, 2013 by vxwkillerjthewalrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalamookoofoo Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Just a life pro tip: it's super easy for us all to brush your suggestion off, considering the absurd amount of spelling and grammar errors in your writing, and also the weird (poem-style line breaks?) formatting of your posts. If you're going to make a suggestion as radical as this, you really ought to brush up on your English skills first. Regardless of what your actual age is, nobody will take you seriously if you type like a 12 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROCKODUCK Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 And on Jala's note I would again say how nerd would lose at least half the player base if not more due to this bizarre change. Tekkit is fun for about 10 minutes for players who actually enjoy minecraft where you have to build. Again I am not an admin so I do not know the specifications of nerd.nu's servers, but I know that what you are proposing would be some specialty type server that are not known for their well rounded durability or long lasting parts. It may seem like a good idea at first, but try to think of every possible problem that would happen and you begin to see why nerd is perfectly fine running simple vanilla servers. Please do not argue with me about the specifications of servers as I literally work with them as a living and know that no server could simply use 4 gigs of RAM pulling Tekkit and every other modification you just listed. All in all, decent idea, but very unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKONN Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 The beauty of the reddit servers is in their simplicity. Every server requires no mods for you to play on, and is readily accessible to any level of player.Tekkit, FTB, and other such modpacks are the polar opposite of that. You've either got amateurs or experts. By the time the amateurs get onto the server, the experts have obtained a vast amount of materials, leaving the amateurs at an extreme disadvantage. They have the knowledge to utilize advanced techniques. They have the foresight needed to progress from their past experiences. Related note, we keep it simple, and get over 100 people a day on the servers. Over 150 on P/S alone. We're limited on server space, computing power, etc etc etc. Adding in something as difficult to safely implement as Tekkit isn't a smart idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weazol Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I feel like this is a troll. However, this topic continues to be discussed. I will just stress this again. And on Jala's note I would again say how nerd would lose at least half the player base if not more due to this bizarre change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMMan Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Out of curiosity, what exactly are the servers like? Model, specs, OS? How many physical servers? How many virtual OS instances? What runs on it aside from Minecraft? I'm interested in the implementation, though I've never come across this info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c45y Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 http://redditpublic.com/wiki/Server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMMan Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 http://redditpublic.com/wiki/ServerWell, that covers the first part, certainly. What about the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totemo Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Ram is not the issue, we are cpu bound. Tekkit is cpu intensive, partly because of all the cool things you talk about ( that would have to be disabled due to the ability to blow holes in the map hundreds of blocks wide ) Lets get the 3 we have working. vxwkillerjthewalrus, c45y is a former Reddit Public tech admin who has spent considerable time investigating performance issues with our servers. Whatever he tells you is the definitive word on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c45y Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Well, that covers the first part, certainly. What about the rest? Things running on the box from memory p.nerd.nu c.nerd.nu s.nerd.nu nginx / php-fastcgi sshd crond Thats about it. One OS, one physical server Each server lives on the SSD, with all its logs heading off to a larger SATA disk. Anything extra that was/could cause CPU usage was looked at, and likely killed. At this stage a CPU upgrade or Minecraft to get some smarts and understand how to do more than hog one single core until its maxed then fall over are our options. CPU upgrade is very expensive from memory Minecraft threading is slowly getting there, and will hopefully improve in the future. Anyway, I've sidetracked this thread enough. Sounds like a firm No to tekkit, close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROCKODUCK Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Well if this strange/slightly trollish as weazol said topic is done, perhaps closing? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitcatbar Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Looks like this topic has run it's course. Closing for now, feel free to reopen if there's more to discuss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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